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#1565 of 2039 2006 Mitsubishi GS Eclipse vs Scion TC
Jul 07, 2005 (2:22 am)
In 2001 I almost bought a fully loaded Mitsu Spyder but for less than two grand more I got a very loaded BWW Z3 so that is my "fun" car.
My other/practical car is a Nissan 240SX 1993 which I LOVE. I've had it this long because I've never had any problems with it and I've never found a car I liked as much.
That being said...age is catching up with 'er and while I love the convertible BMW for long trips and "fun" I need a more practical/affordable everyday car now.
As most have seen here, I am very interested in the Scion TC but just saw the new 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS which is comparable in many ways now including engine size, horsepower, tire size (Mit a bit wider?) and even audio on the steering wheel..with the incredible option package that includes a 650 watt stereo that is.
So...I'd love any input or discussion on this comparison. Compared to the 2005 Eclipse..the TC was for sure the winner...the 2006 not so sure now..mainly because now they really are much more comparable, at least when I "build" them each with everything I want. And yeah I'm a sucker for powerful stereo systems.
The TC wins though for being a bit more roomy in the back seat AND for cargo hauling with my favorite...HATCHBACK. And if I get that stereo and other upgrades package in the Mitsu...it includes a huge component that goes in the trunk..one reason I wasn't gonna get the subwoofer in the TC.
I priced them both out with ALL options I would want. My TC gets to about $20K, the Eclipse GS right at $22K. Both have MP3 player, steering wheel audio controls, etc. I don't own an IPOD so no concern there.
A couple of questions I hope folks can answer here for me. I am very short...and in test drives of Eclipse's / Spyders before..I noticed a huge problem with lack of visibility out of the rear window due to the curve and what used to be a way too tall spoiler...like the pedastal one offered for the TC. The 2006 Eclipse GS still has the odd curve/shaped windown but the huge spoiler looks to be gone and replaced by a lip one similar to what is available also for the TC.
Would LOVE to hear from other SHORT women re: the TC (and/or 2006 Eclipse if they've tested one out). And from anyone who has reviewed the 2006 models for both vehicles. THANKS!
#1566 of 2039 Re: Odd [juandehavasu]
Jul 07, 2005 (3:46 am)
The cutout is also for towing the vehicle in the event that you need such a service. I.e. It gets pulled onto a flat-bed via this point. It's explained quite well in the owners manual.
Jul 07, 2005 (11:42 am)
Hey guys I was wondering how much extra horse power average does the trd exhuast give my Scion tC, thanks
Jul 07, 2005 (5:30 pm)
In addition to comparing to Mitsubishi Eclipse GS, also would like to hear thoughts comparing 2006 Mustang to TC....and I too wonder about the exhaust option...price seems high to be just cosmetic. The above person might be asking about another exhaust but I'd like to know about the Scion option..is it just "pretty"?
#1569 of 2039 Comparisons and radio
Jul 07, 2005 (9:44 pm)
It is probably worth looking at those two cars (Eclipse and Mustang), but I don't think I can do it. The Scion should be a lot more reliable. I can't decide if I even like the new Mustang styling either.
As for powerful stereo systems, I like wiring custom systems. (I wonder how hard it would be to integrate an aftermarket amp into, for example, the base system? That way, you'd still have the controls on the wheel....) If you like bass, you can pretty easily add a subwoofer onto an existing system too... but I have to admit, I like the "hidden" subwoofer design for the Scion. Less mess.
I think that the tC is a neat car. I've just about convinced myself that it has enough passenger room in the back seat (though I want to look at that again), but as others have said earlier in the topic, I wish it had a bit more performance. I would like to try a manual shift model, though. In the smaller cars, sometimes manual makes a big difference. (Unfortunately, the local dealer has virtually nothing to look at, much less a manual...)
I think if I were stuck with a <$20k price, this would be my top pick, but I can afford something more as well. I just have a problem spending a lot of money on a car. Ah, decisions, decisions....
Jul 07, 2005 (10:56 pm)
Got vtec..sounds like we are in the same boat..I could go the extra few thousand but don't really want to..especially since I bought the Z3 for my "fun" splurge in 2001. So this car needs to be practical.
I still wonder WHY OH WHY Nissan quit the 240SX hatchback line..the reliability factor and resale value alone justifies it. I waited for YEARS to see what they would come up with only to be hugely disappointed with the 350...too much money, too little car (as is space, etc).
Neither of the other two have the hatchback which I don't know if I could "live" without...the cargo abilitiy with it is truly amazing...even though trunks have seats that fold down too there is usually a "hard top" that limits the true vertical cargo space.
#1571 of 2039 Re: Comparisons and radio [got_vtec]
Jul 08, 2005 (7:47 am)
I too have the means to buy just about any car I want under 50K... but I don't place that much importance on a car... got a mortgage you know... but I traded in my full size dodge 1500 extended cab super truck for a 5 speed manual tC (autos IMO in a sports car are for gilrs)... I did this because of gas prices and the distance to and from work... 70miles round trip every day... To answer your question about roominess... I have 3 children 12years, 10 years and 2 years plus my wife... we were all able to pack into the tC for a 1200 mile trip from the twin cities to austin tx... the rear is better for 2 when your dealing with full size people but it has the most leg room i've ever seen in a small car... the back seat is lacking abit in head room for people taller than 6' though... with the caviat that the back seats recline to kinda deal with that... The front seat is very roomy for the legs... again you have to lean the seat back to gain head room...I'm 6'2" and this is the first car that I have ever owned where i had to move the seat up to reach the peddles...as far as power... well if you understand that this is a compact... not to be compaired with eclipsis or mustangs... it has 160hp in a small body... I am somewhat of a speed deamon and i have raced a few punk kids in mini cooper S's and smoked em', civic Si and smoked em', acura rsx beat me by a bit... not as bad as i thought he would though.... what i'm getting at is for the price I can smoke the tires in 1st and second gear with a respectible 3 gear scratch... I'm gonna need new tires soon... but sense I saved soooo much money on this car I can afford it... I suggest that you really shop around... only then will you see the value of the tC... Lots of cars to choose from in this class but bigger sticker prices for less creature comforts...
#1572 of 2039 Re: Odd [sciontcowner]
Jul 08, 2005 (8:01 am)
If you talk to the dealer he told me that it doesn't add any extra horse power... its for looks and sound... i have tried alot of little things to increase hp such as cold air intake, super spark plugs... nothing is noticable... if you want more hp get a different car or go for a supercharger or turbo system.... thats really the only way you will feel a real difference... you can also tub out your car... make it much lighter...
Jul 08, 2005 (8:32 pm)
Does the exhaust option create a very loud exhaust sound? Just wondering as in CA they frown on that and besides..I'm a bit too old to put out the "racer" signal LOL. That being said I liked the LOOK of it...and other cars offer a chrome exhaust but for a lot less which is why I wondered what else this exhaust offered...well if anyone on here gets it...let us know how LOUD is LOUD OK?
#1574 of 2039 What's going to be new in 07?
Jul 14, 2005 (11:06 am)
just wondering if anyone knows what'll be new with the '07 Tc, and when it will be released. I'm planning to buy a Tc in a month or two, and am debating whether I sould wait 10 months or so for the 07 to come out.