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#2 of 2033 Isn't anyone excited about a convertible that will cost by libertycat Jul 16, 2003 (1:00 pm)
$10K less than the current least expensive convertible?
#3 of 2033 by coolguyky7 Jul 16, 2003 (2:37 pm)
I heard the xC would be a sporty coupe with more power than the two current models. Replies to this message: kiassuc2 (Jul 01, 2004 9:55 am)
#4 of 2033 I read on Edmunds and many magazines that it will be a by libertycat Jul 16, 2003 (4:36 pm)
cheap convertible.
#5 of 2033 by ateixeira Jul 24, 2003 (11:25 am)
This could be fun, actually.   I bought a used Miata and would have at least considered something like this were it available at the time.   It has to be light, though, that's the key to the current Scions. The engine has little torque. Convertibles add weight, so that's a bad combination.   And puh-lease kill the dorky center-mounted speedo. They should be above the steering wheel. People rejected the Echo for this reason (and others).   -juice
#6 of 2033 I saw a picture of the concept.. but I'm not sure if that is it by wsag26 Aug 18, 2003 (10:17 am)
I was reading MotorTrend magazine and I came upon possible styling for the Xc. It didn't exactly look like a convertible, but it resembled more of a hatchback. Styling not once so ever looked like there current hatchback the Xa, so my guess is Toyota Corp. might be changing there mind about whether it will be a convertible or hatchback, or maybe if it will come to America at all....
#7 of 2033 Toyota Avensis by pzev Oct 14, 2003 (4:09 am)
Motor Trend is now saying the Scion xC will be the Toyota Avensis! Not that this is earth-shattering news because for the most part the Avensis, especially in sedan form, is kind of dull. I don't see how it will appeal to the youth crowd, but it seems to be a very nice car and if it has Scion-like pricing then I'll definetly consider one as my next car.   One problem is it may not have Scion-like pricing. In the UK the pricing ranges from £14,200 to £21,700. This is definetly not in the same price range as the Scion xA or xB. Either way I find it appealing and hope they bring it over.   What does everyone think?   Here is a review from 4car that will give you some info on what the Avensis is about. It's available in sedan, hatchback, and wagon variations. This will appeal to a broad range of people, but again seems to not really appeal to the youth crowd in my opinion.   http://www.channel4.com/apps26/4car/jsp/main.jsp?lnk=231_2&re- viewid=779   Nothing is confirmed yet though, so this car may not be coming. The project leader is an audio buff so the Avensis has a very good stereo already in place, so that covers the prerequisite good stereo that all Scions are suppose to have.
#8 of 2033 more info by pzev Oct 14, 2003 (4:14 am)
http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/03/1006.html
#9 of 2033 yippy skippy! by coolguyky7 Oct 14, 2003 (3:14 pm)
I've been wondering why Toyota hasn't whipped out the new Avensis to compete with Passat, at least in style, here in the United States. Yeah, it would definitely steal sales from Camry, but if you named it Avensis Camry (so long as they are somehow related), you've got your sales numbers problem solved.
#10 of 2033 coolguyky7 by pzev Oct 14, 2003 (4:57 pm)
"Yeah, it would definitely steal sales from Camry, but if you named it Avensis Camry (so long as they are somehow related), you've got your sales numbers problem solved."   Yeah I thought about that, it could definetly steal sales from the Camry. One way around that though is to not offer the 2.4 engine. The next engine is the 2.0 which has 145 hp or something like that. It only weighs around 2800-2900 pounds though so it'll be close to the Camry in speed even though it has less HP because of the less weight.   Still a lot of Americans buy HP and even though I haven't compared the exterior dimensions, the Avensis is probably smaller on the outside as well. This may be reason enough to have a lot of people still want the Camry. Also by the time it comes out (and hopefully it will) the Camry redesign will be a year or two away, so after the Avensis is on the market for a year or so the new Camry will be close to coming out.   If they play their cards right they can keep it from hurting Camry sales too much. To me though the Avensis seems to be a better overall car than the Camry.
#11 of 2033 by ateixeira Oct 15, 2003 (10:51 am)
Looks like a Corolla with a VW front-end. The outcome is OK, though. I'm not sure it'll fit in with the image the xB portrays.   Camry buyers' median age has crept up there, I'm just not sure how this would attract younger buyers, besides lower price?   -juice

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