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Lexus GS 300, Lexus GS 430, Sedan
#2058 of 3073 Re: Engines [lenscap]
Apr 21, 2005 (6:16 pm)
Lexus should have brought both the GS 350 and GS 460 out now. All GS 300 competitors have more poweful engines like the M35 and E350 which just came out. Even the Avalon has a 280 hp 350 in it.
When they finally bring the GS 350 the mags will say "this is the engine it should have had from the beginning."
But I understand the marketing, Lexus can sell a bunch of brand new GS 300s now then "reinvent" (most likely Fall 2006) the GS with the 350 engine and sell a bunch more. Previous generation GSs have started out with strong sales numbers and then faded away. This strategy will create two intitial strong numbers.
By the way the GS 430 is a much better automobile than the GS 300 and not just because of the engine.
#2059 of 3073 Interior Difference between GS430 and 300
Apr 21, 2005 (6:38 pm)
Hi, I purchased a GS300AWD as I am in Boston and need it for the winters. Once I got the car with all the NAV/ML, tourmaline wheels, etc, the price was close to the base of the GS430? Can someone tell me how the interiors of the GS300 and GS430 are different, I was told they are the same by our sales guy?
Apr 21, 2005 (6:45 pm)
GS 430 Base w/out No Nav or ML
Quoted $750, 39mos, 36K miles, no cap buy down----
How does this sound? Any comparisons out there?
It's a tough call--could get a 545i loaded! for $670 same terms----
#2061 of 3073 Re: GS 430 lease [florida1]
Apr 21, 2005 (7:39 pm)
If you can get a truly loaded, $70K 545i for $80/month less with the same upfront terms, I'm not sure I understand your question?
Also, I think its extraodinarily comical that so many people can berate the decision regarding the 245 horse 3.0L in the GS300 and the carryover engine in the GS430. The simple truth is that the new 4.6L could not and would not be ready in time (from a developmental quality/production standpoint) for this vehicle's launch, and for the marketing purposes clearly and explicitly stated by lenscap, we have the lower power 245 variant, which itself is an outstanding engine (seems like everyone is quick to overlook the class leading MPG figures). Given the very aged former generation, Lexus really couldnt delay the new model around the engine.
AND GUESS WHAT?????
The decision doesnt look to be such a bad one after all, as the Lexus is outselling its Infiniti M class and Acura RL competitors thus far.
#2062 of 3073 Re: Interior Difference between GS430 and 300 [mks4]
Apr 21, 2005 (7:57 pm)
Not to worry, your sales guy is correct. The big differences between the two are the engine, standard features on the 430 that are options on the 300, 18 inch vs 17 inch wheels, wood steering wheel, and VDIM that is only available on the 430.
#2063 of 3073 Re: adb3: '06 vs previous GS [bartalk3]
Apr 21, 2005 (9:04 pm)
Yes, got RWD but virtually every other option. (Not the chrome wheels). Have the Mark Levinson (AWSOME!) and the Nav. Like the Nav a lot but the learning curve is pretty steep. Have used the NeverLost system in Hertz cars for the past couple of years and find it much more intuitive and simple to use. Of course, it doesn't have Voice Recognition, etc. so because it's a simpler system it is, well . . . . simpler to use. Am confident once we use this Nav for a while it'll be a snap. We've only had the car for a month, haven't taken any long trips in it and really haven't gotten much Nav "practice". I'm glad we got both the ML & the GPS and would buy both again . . . in a heartbeat . . . despite the cost.
We put about another 100 miles on the GS today running around looking for a varitey of items we need for a remodeling project we're involved with and the more we drive it, the more we like it. As lots of others have said, it's not for everybody but we REALLY are delighted. Am now glad we couldn't get Infiniti to meet the trade-in number Lexus shot us. Am convinced, all things considered, we're much happier with the GS than we would have been with the M Sport (although it is a fine car).
Hope this helps.
#2064 of 3073 Re: Engines [drtravel]
Apr 21, 2005 (9:05 pm)
And again the reason for having 35 more horses is........why? Especially since you are in socal where you never get over 70mph on the fwy? I still dont see why 35 hp is such a big deal and invites so much negative sour grapes. Please enjoy your M and be careful as you pass me by on the freeway and get to your desitnation a whole whopping 2 min before I do.
Apr 22, 2005 (5:09 am)
Be glad you dont have to learn COMAND or iDrive The Lexus system is easily the most intuitive of any of the factory nav systems. Just spend some time playing around with the buttons, I'm certain you'll pick it up quickly. My wife has no trouble with her '01 RX's NAV, and my wife is FAR from a technophile.
#2066 of 3073 Re: adb3: '06 vs previous GS [jhamilton1]
Apr 22, 2005 (6:29 am)
Thanks for the comments on your new GS. Very helpful. I think the car has not been sufficiently appreciated on this board. It may not be the most powerful car of the lot and may not handle like a BMW, but for the sheer balance of luxury, power, economy, and reliability, it can't be beat.
#2067 of 3073 Re: adb3: '06 vs previous GS [bartalk3]
Apr 22, 2005 (7:02 am)
jhamilton1, abd3, bartalk3-
I really thought my 98 GS300 was one fine car - - - until I bought the 06 GS300 a couple of weeks ago.
Do I absolutely love it? I am just delighted every time I drive it. It is unabashed, pure pampering luxury and power.
And I'm grinning all the way down the road.
Thanks, guys, for all of your input this past month that helped me get through my mental fog about all of the new cars out there.