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You are in the Lexus GS
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Lexus GS 300, Lexus GS 430, Sedan
#1831 of 3073 Re: Cross Shop a GS and a 3 Series? [rtcage]
Mar 30, 2005 (6:11 pm)
You either love a Bimmer or Mercedes or hate them. I never owned a Bimmer, but my wife has said if I ever want another Mercedes it has to be with my 2nd wife!!!! I have friends with Bimmers and they are expensive to repair and need more repairs than their Lexus ever needed. I have had 5 lexus and still own a 2001 GS 300 fully equipped with Nav & Mark Levinson and a 2004 RX330. I drove a 2006 GS 300 and was so impressed that it will be #6. Lexus service is absolutely incredible (over the past 10 years) and no more costly than BMW or Mercedes.
#1832 of 3073 Re: Cross Shop a GS and a 3 Series? [bartalk3]
Mar 30, 2005 (8:33 pm)
"Driving a BMW is obviously fun, but being a passenger isn't anything special."
This is no joke - almost everyone who rides in my Lexus comments on how comfortable it is. When I take the work crew out to lunch, I frequently have people joke that they'd like to stay in the car and sleep.
#1833 of 3073 Re: Cross Shop a GS and a 3 Series? [silvereagle2]
Mar 30, 2005 (8:37 pm)
Don't ask me why, but my GS is actually a 2001 as well. For some reason I had 98 on my mind when I wrote the earlier post - scary!
Mar 30, 2005 (9:52 pm)
According to the current issue (May)of Motor Trend, the GS350 will not debut until the 2008 model year. A long time to wait for a more powerful 6.
#1835 of 3073 GS430 vs. M45
Mar 30, 2005 (10:38 pm)
As a five-time loyal BMW & Benz owner, I recently had a chance to test both the GS430 and M45. Seeing as they are a hot topic of debate, I thought I would see what they have to offer. I won't go into all of the details that have already been discussed in length, but I would like to make a few comments.
The GS430 is a nice car overall in typical Lexus fashion. It has muted responses and is quiet and comforting. The interior is nicely finished and it is easy to see that the car is well made. The car is pleasant looking inside and out. Possibly, the perfect car for the semi to non-enthusiast. The major problem that I have with the new GS is that it does not provide the driver any feedback what so ever. The car is too quiet and lacks road feel. You canít hear what the engine is doing and you can't feel what the road is doing, by the response of the steering wheel. The brakes are touchy and the throttle isnít very responsive. Overall, there is just way too much electronic interference between the driver and the car. Some people may like that, but as a BMW owner I despise it. BMW is in fact starting to go in this wrong direction as well. Mercedes has unfortunately already gone this route.
On the other hand, the M45 Sport was a true surprise. I have never really considered them as a brand before, but ever since the G35 debuted, Infiniti has been on my radar. The M45 Sport is a keen and responsive car to drive. You can hear the engine and feel the road through the steering wheel, much like what you would find in a BMW. But the great thing about the M is its different personalities. If you take it on the highway and it is almost as quiet as the GS, but when you step on the accelerator, you can feel that the car wants to run hard and fast. It is great to be able to test the limits of this car, because stability control can be turned off, which is a blessing unlike the GS. Also, I felt that the interior is just as nice as the GS. In fact, I think that the M has more style and is less bland than the GS. I am one of those few people who likes iDrive, so I like the way that the M's HMI controller works. I don't like touchscreens, which the GS has, because they get dirty and greasy looking quickly. I like cars with personality, and the M has plenty of it. The fact that it looks great on the outside doesnít hurt.
I basically came to the conclusion that the M speaks to you and the GS doesnít so much. The GS is a great car to get from point A to point B, but it doesnít give you anything in return. It is just well thought-out transportation. The M can get you from point A to point B in the same fashion, but it will speak back to you and give you something to smile about. It can be fast and agile or quiet and serene. You can get the best of both worlds in my opinion.
#1836 of 3073 Above pics
Mar 30, 2005 (10:40 pm)
Interesting see these two like that. The rear pillar kink is almost identical as are the overall shape, yet the M looks so much better than the GS on the road.
#1837 of 3073 Re: Above pics [merc1]
Mar 31, 2005 (7:05 am)
I guess everyone has a different opinion because I personally think the GS looks far better on the road than the M (although they are both nice).
#1838 of 3073 Re: Above pics [lenscap]
Mar 31, 2005 (7:16 am)
Somehow I knew you would...(smile).
#1839 of 3073 Does it make sense to buy the GS ?
Mar 31, 2005 (7:27 am)
Since both the 3.0 V6 and the 4.3 V8 engine will be replaced very soon, I think it makes more sense to wait for the GS350 and GS460. Then the comparison would be more fair vs the Infiniti M.
Mar 31, 2005 (8:01 am)
"I'm surprised that future 4.6L of GS only makes 315 hp, still 20 shy of M's 4.5. "
Where did you get this information? I have never seen any power ratings for the 4.6.