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Lexus GS 300, Lexus GS 430, Sedan
Feb 16, 2005 (5:08 pm)
Drove the GS 300 today. My impressions:
Exterior: "In the flesh" this car looks alot different from the photos posted on the web site. Much crisper and sportier. I am not seeing much of the Maxima that I did in the initial photos. However, the car looks small and perhaps less substantial than the 2005. Exterior looks are completely subjective so I'll stop there.
Interior: Excellent fit and finish, however my demo had a dark wood that looked like black plastic- almost impossible to tell there was wood grain there. It took no time to adjust the seat to a very comfortable driving position. Much more of a "cockpit" feel than the Acura RL or the Cadillac STS, which I think is good. However, some might feel it was cramped. Headroom was marginal. The DVD/info screen seemed blurry with low resolution.
Driving: In summary, one of the best highway cruisers I have ever driven. Quiet, comfortable and plenty of acceleration. Not quite as "Lexus-quiet" as I would have imagined- some road noise does intrude. Steering was right-on at highway speed. However, you won't be seeking out winding, narrow back roads with this car. The brake is mushy, underpowered with a long throw. I found this out, as the car is so quiet, when I came apon traffic going 60 when I thought I was going 25. The steering is overly assisted and light under 60 mph. Suspension is somewhat isolating, with mild, but noticible, body roll. In general, I was not confident driving this car around a corner.
In summary, the new GS seems sportier in all aspects, exterior look, interior fit and acceleration, EXCEPT for the steering and suspension. Steering and suspension aren't that important, are they?
All kidding aside, this is a nice piece of machinery. However, after driving a Toyota Avalon today , I don't know if I would spend the additonal 15K on the GS. Honestly, if you lean toward a luxury vs. a sporty ride, the Avalon was very, very impressive. Obviously, most people (including my wife), wouldn't get past the image factor (Grampa!), but I was pleasantly surprised.
#1416 of 3073 I've only seen the car, in person, in black
Feb 16, 2005 (6:08 pm)
The ads in MT look very good (silver car).
The design apes the Maxima, but has better styling.
Did you feel the dash needed more wood?
#1417 of 3073 Re: 1st to drive GS300 [ckelly14]
Feb 16, 2005 (9:36 pm)
I see you got your answer before i could reply. What type equipment was on your test vehicle ?
How was the torque steer on that 280Hp FWD Avalon ?
#1418 of 3073 Re: 1st to drive GS300 [dl7265]
Feb 17, 2005 (1:46 am)
The car I drove was a RWD version with all options to include the ML stereo, Nav as well as a $2,400 wheel upgrade and sonar. It stickered for 53K!It seems that most (if not all) of the vehicles will have the following options (according to the salesperson):
Rain Sensing Wipers/Adaptive Front Lighting System/Headlamp Cleaners $525
Power Tilt&Slide Moonroof $1000
Power Rear Sunshade $210
Ventilated/heated Front Seats $200
Intuitive Park Assist $500
I thought these would be a part of a package, but it looks like most will arrive from the factory with these options as "standard" in true Lexus fashion. The only real options are sonar, ML stereo/Nav. The "base" model with the above options stickers at 46,600.
#1419 of 3073 Programming navi while driving
Feb 17, 2005 (1:05 pm)
Does anyone know if you can program the new Lexus GS430 navigation while driving using the voice commands? This is something that the Infinity M45 does allow you to do and it is great -- no need to stop and input.
Feb 17, 2005 (5:19 pm)
Pretty much as I expected. I figured Lexus would go more E class than 5 series.
#1421 of 3073 INTUITIVE PARKING ASSIST?
Feb 17, 2005 (6:51 pm)
What's this $500 option? A chauffeur?
#1422 of 3073 MIXED MARRIAGE
Feb 17, 2005 (7:10 pm)
I also drove the GS300 today (although it was AWD). I would call it the offspring of a mixed marriage between the E320 and the 530i. The car has qualities of each of its parents. Though it has the feel of a big car, it seems to handle far better and corners flatter than the current 300, although my experience with the latter is limited. Brakes to me seemed strong. Smooth-as-silk Lexus throughout.
Not a lot of headroom. Windshield sloped at such an angle A pillar intrudes somewhat on forward vision.
Ironically, in this area (Chicago), 95% of 300s being shipped this month are AWD.
Still unclear what options will be available with RWD. ML, in fact, may not be available. Salesman told me Lexus has had focus groups with Lexus owners who, in a blind test, could not distinguish between the standard Lexus audio and ML.
#1423 of 3073 Re: MIXED MARRIAGE [bartalk2]
Feb 17, 2005 (8:06 pm)
I've got the standard audio system in my LS430 and the ML in my LX470. The ML doesn't sound any better to me.
Feb 17, 2005 (9:32 pm)
Well, if that's the case, what's the point of the ML then, especially if you don't have any 5.1 DVD-audio discs.