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Lexus GS 300, Lexus GS 430, Sedan
Jan 08, 2005 (11:16 am)
Ok everybody I made a few corrections to my list:
2006 GS: 3.0 and 4.3 engines (245/300)
2006 IS: 2.5 and 3.0 (200/245) (CAN'T HAVE A BIGGER ENGINE THAN THE GS, so when the GS gets the 3.5, the IS will too)
2006 RX: new 3.0 along with hybrid 3.3 (245/270) (Lexus already said it was a hybrid 3.3 and it probably costs a lot of money to adapt an engine to electric motors so the hybrid 3.0 will probably only appear in 2009, when the RX is redesigned OR the normal 3.3 is kept until 2009 along with the hybrid until they change for the 3.0 and hybrid 3.0
2007 ES: new 3.0 (245)
2007 LS: new 4.6 (350)
2007 GS: new 4.6 (350)(they said they wanted to keep the attention of everybody in adding a new feature to their car every year, like the Infiniti G35 so the 3.5 V6 could appear in the mid-cycle refresh)
2008 IS: upgrade 2.5, new 3.5 (220/280)
2008 GS: new 3.5 (280) (keeping the attention)
2006 Avalon: 3.5 (280)
2006 Highlander: new 3.0 along with hybrid 3.3 (245/270) (OR same thing than the RX)
2007 Camry: 4L 2.5 and V6 3.0 engines (180/245)
2007 Solara: 4L 2.5 and V6 3.0 engines (180/245)
2007 Sienna: new hybrid 3.0 (280 or more with Corolla economy)
If you have other suggestions just tell them so that the list becomes perfect at the end
#1037 of 3073 Engine use
Jan 08, 2005 (10:07 pm)
When consider the engine choice for Toyota, one has to remember there are about 100 models for toyota world wide. I looked up the toyota.jp web site, and looks like the Crown Athlete and Royal both use the 3000cc D4 Engine called 3GR-FSE. http://toyota.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/crownathlete/menu/gra- - - - - de_val.html
That is why using it on the GS make sense for Toyota because the share volume with Crown in Japan.
Interestingly, for the ES in Japan, which called Windom, it still have 3000cc instead of 330 in U.S. There must be some sort of tax benifit to stay below 3000cc. That is maybe one of the reason GS use that engine. Output is 256 in Japan instead of 245 here.
This direct injection engine seems to be able to run 27mph for the athlete. A V6 with I4 mileage and no hybrid. maybe that is the selling point? 232 ft-lb of torque 3400 rpm, litter higher than current, 245hp, a little higher than current.
Jan 09, 2005 (12:46 am)
That just goes to prove that the 3GR-FSE will be able to be tuned to reached higher power and torque outputs.
#1039 of 3073 Re: boomsama
Jan 09, 2005 (8:11 am)
It is also used on the Mark X thing in Japan. The difference between the D4 V6 and the V6 in Avalon might be size and packaging. If all the Crowns and Lux-Sport line in Japan uses the 3GR engine, it make sense to share it with the GS.
Jan 09, 2005 (4:21 pm)
Then why would the Japanese Lexus GS be using the 3.5L V6 as in the Avalon?
On that note, we don't even know if the 3.5L V6 in the GS350 is the same 3.5L V6 as in the Avalon. The GS350 might have a tweaked up version of the 3GR-FSE. Worth a thought...
Jan 09, 2005 (4:25 pm)
Somehow, Toyota has to use different engines for its Camry, ES, Avalon line than the GS, IS line. you can't sell 10 different vehicle with the same engine and expect the price different of 20K to 45K. especially the image of a comfort sedan and sport sedan.
This high output 3.5L Avalon engine makes everything muddy and seems upside down. It seems in Japan, all Toyota models are overlapping. That seems to be the same deal here soon. IS 250, 350 vs GS 300, 430, the only way to position models when you have so many.
Jan 09, 2005 (7:51 pm)
Last year I made a terrible mistake and traded my beloved 1999 gs300 in for a 2004 acura tl. The looks of the car and some of the gadgets grabed me and I made the purchase. Although this is a very good car, I miss the luxury and feel of driving my lexus.
That said, I am thinking of trading in the tl and buying a certified lexus gs. My question for all of you, will I need to move up to the 430 as I am now used to the tl Horse power (although torque is not that amazing}. If anyone has experience with this I would appreciate your help. I have not had the chance to drive the 430 or re drive a 300 and compare yet. Any other cars I should be thinking of? New Rl does nothing for me, new gs and M are to expensive for me.
Thanks a lot
Jan 09, 2005 (8:47 pm)
Grab a fully optioned '01 GS430. The engine is SOOO much better than the GS300. It basically shaves about 2 full seconds off the 0-60. The GS430 is faster than a 540iA, A6 4.2, and E430. Off the line power will also totally blow away the TL. An '01 GS430 with the 17" alloys, NAV and Mark Levinson audio with reasonable mileage is surprisingly affordable
Jan 10, 2005 (7:12 am)
I've always thought the GS430 was under-appreciated by the market. The Mags LOVED this car. C&D and R&T have said in comparos it is for real, as good as the vaunted 540i, and MT even went beyond that to say it is the best of this class (when it came out in '97-98)!
I love the green guages and dash. This car is a performer, bold and brash, and outstanding used car buy, as quality has always been high, and resale value are surprisingly low. A smart choice!
BTW, my sources tell me the hybrid 2007 GS, the GS450h, will be at the NYIAS!
Jan 10, 2005 (3:04 pm)
I was told tentatively that 'we will have a car' on 2-17-05 by a Lexus salesman today. I was inquiring about the new GS models. He told me he would know more when he returned from a 'class' on the new RX400h apparently over the 1-22/23 weekend. He said Lexus would have a GS available for them to look at during the RX400h 'class' and would tell me more upon his return if I called him.
I asked about rumors concerning the GS350 and he said he has only ever seen GS300 in print from Lexus but a 3.5L was possible while mentioning the upcomming Avalon 3.5L.