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Is Kia offering any rebates for the Amanti yet? The question is whether you would fork over $25000+ on an unknown or would spend a few thousands more on an established comparative car. If Kia wants to elbow in with the big boys it will have to produce a winner and be perceived as such real quick. Very interesting what the future will bring though. I didn't yet see an Amanti personally (any day now) but I really liked it from photos. |
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do you remember when toyota launched the lexus line what all those so call "experts" said about the toyotas entry in to the luxury car market. The so called experts said, americans would never buy asian luxury imports. The quality of lexus will never measure up to that of germans or english luxury. Toyota has no expertise/experience/technology to build a true luxury vehicle that can compete with bmw, MB, and jaguar. Well, we all know what happend and the rest is history. There will always be people who say the new kid on the block will never make it. All they can see is the "label" and their mind is already made up. Kia could have taken a lexus 430 and slap a kia label and people like terry would find something to grumble about all because it has a kia label. The following statement by terry preety much summarizes my point. "using the Lexus was a bad example, it's only what I was driving that day, but it could have been LS Lincoln or a 00 Focus or 99 Malibu, it wouldn't make a difference" Terry is in the car business and he actually thinks 00 focus and 99 malibu is better than the Amanti. Now that is funny. |
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| he has super-secret insider information on the whole line...hummm...now. Let's think about that for a second. I have gone to basically two dealers for Kia's. One in Washington state(where I bought my two Kia's from)and one here in Missouri(where I brought the Sportage in for service). I didn't talk to the owner at the Missouri dealership but when I inquired of a salesman about the new Sportage having a unitized body he replied, "hee, Kia would NEVER BUILD A SPORTAGE LIKE THAT!" and looked away. Guess who IS going to build a Sportage with a unitized body on an Elantra chassis? Yep-my point being that dealers and salesmen don't always know everything that is going on. I have been on the net for a little over five years finding out all that I can about Hyundai's, Kia's and Daewoo's. Funny, they're the only real cars that interest me. Point being is that I like them the best. I have heard all the Tom, Dick and Harry comments about them for several years. Nothing I have heard or read has swayed my enthusiasm for these cars. Oh, Daewoo is merely an interesting story but I respect GM a lot more by their picking up Daewoo and creating GM Daewoo Auto & Technology Co. The Aveo brings some much needed hutzpah to the Chevy lineup, huh? No, the South Korean cars are not perfect but they do offer real body styling, something even the Japanese makes sorely LACK IMHO. Reliability in my two Kia's has been great. Did I mention low pricing and the Long-Haul Warranty? I see the Amanti bringing more validity to the Kia lineup and helping to raise the level of the Kia persona worldwide. I'm already on board and I have lots of company. Looking forward to the next Amanti commercial...I think Kia engineers have built a very good deal in a luxury car worth every penny for consumers. | |
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Dunno about that, Lexus was taken pretty seriously from the beginning by most people I know. Acura was the pioneer and proved luxury imports were worthy of attention. -juice |
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It's funny you say that because I actually am going to the Cobo Center for the Detroit Show as Subaru's guest, and yes, with behind-the-scenes access, no embargos, etc. :o) Will check out the Cerato. -juice |
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he was replying to a poster by the name of saber86. I personally don't remember HOW people viewed Lexus at their beginning, I just read his comment. Nuff said. Oh, about the Reader's Digest quip. Wrong again Maestro. I get my information from several online sources(Edmunds being just one of them)AND real-life experience with the brand. I have been wholly satisfied with both of my Kia's and enjoy getting a good deal on a car. A car that has some body-design integrity...I find that cars that hold their value better(right now anyway) by the name of Honda and Toyota and Nissan(all Japanese makes)to be boring and quite lifeless in comparison to Kia and Hyundai. Same goes for the German makes(all the European makers). As for domestics, Chevy is showing some life by acquiring the Kalos(Aveo)and Daewoo. The Corvette finally has a face worth looking at and the SSR retro truck shows design hutzpah again from a GM product. Unbelievable. I don't find that dealers know all that much, except in trying to burn a consumer out of cash. I am quite wary of them, yessa I am. Dumb ill-contrived comments by same do not change the situation one iota. Nuff said. |
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I suppose this goes in a comparison board, but at least it's about the Amanti! I did some quick calculations and found out that the XG350 complete with leather interior, traction control, and CD changer would run about $23.5k (TMV), and if the incentives that expired yesterday come back for at least the same amount make that $22k, or just $21k for current Hyundai owners. A comparably-equipped Amanti, with leather, would run $27,300, or almost $28k for a pearl white car (my favorite) with traction control. The Amanti has VSC, a little display screen and some other doo-dads, but with a $6k difference compared to the XG, I don't think Kia will sell too many Amantis until its price is more comparable to the XG, let alone other competitors like the LeSabre that can be had for just over $20k. The other thing I noticed from the Amanti site, in the Comparisons section, is that the Amanti doesn't compare too favorably with its main competitors on price (especially when you consider the incentives avaiable on the other cars), horsepower, or rear-seat room. With the Avalon going for only $1000 more than the Amanti (list price), I'd think most buyers would spring for the proven Avalon vs. the Amanti. What I think this means is that major discounts and rebates will be coming to the Amanti very soon. |
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Nowadays MSRP has incentive costs built-in, IMO. -juice |
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