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I've been looking at many cars, namely the Mazda 3 and others. I had seen the Vibe before, but avoided any serious thought becasue I prefer foreign cars. I went out of town this week and I had the chance to rent a Vibe. It was awesome. It drove great, had some power, lots of room and it was fun to drive. The interior was roomy and comfortable. Can anyone advise me on the reliability of Pontiacs? I know what the reports say, but any personal feedback. Also, what are the incentives for April 2005, I've found a few answers, but some are confusing me. I also saw in this forum where someone purchased one below 14,000 with incentives. What's a reasonable price for this car this month? Thanks
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Replying to: skim1114 (Apr 04, 2005 4:44 am) As far as the reliability of Pontiacs in general...I'll just say that after my experiences with my 00 Montana and 96 Blazer, I swore I'd NEVER buy another GM product, but...the Vibe is not like other Pontiacs or GM vehicles. It was jointly developed with Toyota along with the Matrix. They share many parts. In fact, the Vibe has a Toyota engine and transmission. I believe the two were developed based on a modified Corrolla. So they should prove to be very reliable. My wife and I were at a Toyota dealer, just kinda browsing when we came across a Matrix. We sat inside and were both surprised at how roomy they are for such a small car. We decided that maybe we should at least consider the Vibe, especially since we had a significant GM card rebate to burn and no desire to buy a true GM. We found the Vibes to be priced higher than a comparibly equipped Matrix, but the Vibes are discounted heavilly. We went through GM's BuyPower website to locate a car close to what we wanted and clicked "request a quote". I was quite surprised when the sales rep e-mailed me that night with the numbers. Here's the deal: 16,915 2005 Base Vibe 1,150 Power Group Value Pkg. 325 Monotone Appearance pkg. 560 Destination charge -300 Pkg savings discount 18,650 Total MSRP -1,500 Rebate -500 Bonus Cash -500 March Madness Cash -1,000 Conquest Cash - for owning a non GM -1,155 Dealer Discount $13,995 Dealer quote after rebates. We were pleased with the price quoted so we test drove it and loved it. I then subtracted another $2,906 using my GM card rebate bringing it down to $11,089 before T.T. & L. So we were out the door for under $12,000. Maybe we could have done a little better but I didn't want to push it. I've walked out on many sales people when they start to play their little games. I was satisfied with the price...and we love this little car. I never thought I say that about another GM. We plan on using it primarily as a commuter vehicle...approx 25,000 miles a year. So we are hoping it comes close to the advertised 30/36mpg. Good Luck, Steve |
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That was very helpful. I have been reading bits about the toyota engine so that makes me feel a little better. The incentives are the best for the cars I am looking at which is a huge bonus. I test drove an automatic, but I want a manual, so I will need to test drive that. I drove the Matrix Manual which was horrible because you had to lift your heel off the ground to work with the clutch, very tiring...so I am hoping the Vibe isn't like this becasue everything else I have been sold on. Any word on the April incentives and how those compare to last months? Thanks. S |
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| the 5 speed manual with the vibe is the same as the matrix, i found the clutch pretty tiring too from the seat position, and i have size 11 feet so i always felt scared i was going to mash the brake on accident when pushing in the clutch. i oped for the auto which is more then adequate. | |
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Those of you who have the GM Card and are talking about using it in conjunction with buying your Vibe, how are you getting more than $1000 off using it? One of the previous posters said that he'd used over $2000 in GM Cash last month applied towards his Vibe, and I only see $1000 being eligible to be applied. Am I missing something? My mother has about $2800 on her GM Card and would like to use as much of it as she can. My parents are thinking about buying a base, manual Vibe with the power group and body colour appearance package. They live in rural Michigan, and have been quoted $15,000 out the door for this car. My feeling is that the dealership could go lower. What do you think? They are not as Internet-savvy as some and I'd like to help them avoid being taken.
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Replying to: charlotte7 (Apr 07, 2005 11:47 am) There are at least 2 versions of the GM card. So it will depend on which version your mother has. The original "GM Card" has a limit of $500 earnings per year times 7 years. So you can apply up to $3500 towards most any GM vehicle...there are a few exceptions. They later came out with something called "Todays GM Card". It has no limit on how much you can accrue in any given year BUT there is a restriction on how much you can apply to any given purchase. The Vibe your parents are considering is equipped like the one we just purchased. I'm not sure if their dealer quote is factoring in their GM Card rebate or not. If they are able to apply their full $2800 in GM card rebate, they should be able to purchase for about $12,000 out the door...depending on taxes and fees in Michigan. I actually purchased my Vibe on April 2. I was able to apply $2906 in GM card rebates in addition to the $3500 worth of other rebates GM was offering.(see my prior post, # 97 above) I did not negotiate at all. We got the internet quote and jumped on it. We may have actually been able to get it a little lower. No way to know for sure. I was pleased with the quote so we did not push the issue. We were the only customers in the showroom and the dealer seemed desperate to sell cars. He practically begged me to send him any referrals that I could. As far as being internet savvy...that should not be a problem. All I did was use GM's BuyPower website to locate the car I wanted. I requested a quote, recieved it via e-mail that evening. We went the next morning and purchased the Vibe. Very painless. Good luck. Steve |
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I've been reading on this post and I see a number of different rebates people have been getting. The only thing offical I see is the $2000 cash back. Are there other little things that the average person may be eligible for? I also have someone who works at GM who can get me the GM supplier cost, "GM in the driveway". Does anyone know what the Vibe's cost is on this? Also, what are your experiences on prices for the GT version? Thanks
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Replying to: skim1114 (Apr 08, 2005 4:57 am) Rebates...you can ask your local dealer. They should be more than willing to provide you with all that is available. When I contacted my dealer the only thing shown on GM's website was $1500 plus $500 bonus cash. Dealer told me of rebates I had never heard of, totaling $3500 on my Vibe purchase. The rebates change frequently and may apply only to certain models or even only to old inventory. It doesn't cost to inquire. I did read in the last few days that GM is going to revive the "Hot Button" promo. The article I read states that 1000 people will win a new car, the others will receive $1,000 bonus cash to be applied toward the purchase or lease of a new 2004 or 2005 GM car or truck. The bonus cash offer runs from April 5 to May 31. As far as the GM supplier cost, you'll have to price it both ways. You may find that you can do better without using that program. I recall reading somewhere that I could not use the Supplier discount in conjuction with my GM Card rebate. Maybe someone else can give you feedback as to their experiences using that program. You should be able to find attractive pricing on the GT...just depends on how aggressive you want to be. The dealer I had seemed very motivated to sell anything. Have you found a dealer with a GT equipped the way you want it??? Good luck. Steve |
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Replying to: skim1114 (Apr 08, 2005 4:57 am) Even though GM in the Driveway is "Supplier pricing" it is not the Supplier program. |
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I am currently in negotiations with the internet manager at my local dealer for an AWD Vibe. Here are the vehicle stats: AWD Moons and Tunes Side air bags Power group Monotone paint MSRP = $23775 The price I was quoted: $19490 (dealer claims that is invoice minus $3000 in rebates) They will have to go about 90 miles away to get the vehicle (there are almost no AWD with side air bags available - only 2 in a 200-mile radius around here! St Louis area) When I did my own calculations compared to her offer, I came up with an additional $349 above invoice in the pricing. When I asked her about it - she said that was "advertising fees". She also claimed that Edmunds and KBB (where I got my invoice pricing) are wrong and that the dealer has to show me the right invoice numbers. My question is - are people usually successful in negotiating advertising fees? Also - is the $19490 a good price? And finally - are Edmunds and KBB correct? (it is interesting to note that Edmunds and KBB were off by $535 from eachother for same vehicle). I used KBB numbers for my calcuations since their MSRP came out to the same as the sticker while Edmunds did not. (Edmunds is higher) I think Edmunds does not minus out the package discounts. Sorry for the long-ish post and thanks for any and all help! |
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