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The GM Employee price is "LESS" than the invoice price...and then...subtract the rebate and the Conquest incentive. How much more do you expect???. On the GM employee pricing "from the manufacturer", the dealer gets a FLAT FEE from the manufacturer for that particular sale. I will repeat..."The employee discount price comes direct from the manufacturer and if you are are in any doubt at all....it is at the righthand (near the bottom) of the invoice which I am certain any GM dealer will show you. If the dealer wants to give you part of his GM fee (which I doubt)...than go for it and good luck. I am in no way connected with GM...but... the dealer is entitled to some profit.!!!! |
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| The 2005 base Vibe I bought had a sticker price of $21,405.00. The selling price after GMS pricing (employee discount), $1000 customer cash, and the $1000 conquest non-GM product trade-in allowance was $17, 349.05. That was of course before tax, tag, and doc fee. The $17, 349.05 was about $200 more than the base price, and I got the power group value package (pwr windows, cruise, programmable keyless remote), moon and tunes (sunroof, 200 watt stereo with subwoofer), auto trans, aluminum 16" mags, and XM radio essentially for that $200. I am somewhat stunned that anyone would think they should be able to do any better. The GMS was about $500 below the invoice price, and then another $2000 came off of that. The only way they could have done any better was to not charge me a doc fee, but since I thought this was their only real profit I didn't balk. The only other profit they are making on these is holdback, and it is not appropriate to try and negotiate that into a deal, and I don't think anyone will let you. I am usually happy when I can buy for $300 to $500 over the invoice. To be able to buy for $2500 below invoice is a no brainer if you like the vehicle. The salesmen hate the GMS pricing because it makes all of these sales a minimum $100 deal to them. Don't worry about them though, they will take someone to the cleaners on your trade-in. If you are looking to buy a Vibe, now is the time! | |
| I certainly agree that a dealer is entitled to make their profit and i didn't mean to be obtuse or sound greedy in my post above (#118); I'm just trying to figure out how much the dealer retains on each vehicle and make an offer based on that. There are some posters who have got deals far cheaper than the GM employee price minus the $1000 customer cash minus the $1000 conquest bonus (see #86 & #97, for example). That, of course, demonstrates that it can be done, but that may be the result of incentives in place at the time they bought. It looks like the only one to report going under that level since the GM employee pricing deal began is #114. Anyone else out there have a report? | |
| mokesmith: instead of wondering how low they will go....why don't you go make an offer!!!!! Are you interested in purchasing a Vibe?????? There are no other incentives other than the $!000.00 rebate and the $1000.00 Conquest rebate.... PERIOD!!!!, and as I posted before...if you think you can get some of the actual dealer profit after Employee pricing and anothetr $2000.00 below that for the incentives...then go for it...instead of wandering about it!!!! | |
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Replying to: hillfla (Aug 16, 2005 8:09 am) Mike
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Replying to: mjh7550 (Aug 23, 2005 3:21 am) Since this is the pricing discussion, you're more likely to get feedback from those who currently own the car in our regular Pontiac Vibe discussion, where owners can be found. kirstie_h Roving Host Host, Future Vehicles & Smart Shopper discussions
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Aug 23, 2005 4:57 am) |
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I just bought a GM Certified Satellite 2004 Vibe with 20,300 miles, automatic, alloys, ABS, monotone package, power package and cargo mat for $12,900 today. It seems to be a decent deal. I guess I'll know for sure in a few months. I pick it up on Friday and will try to post more after driving it all weekend. 
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What type of warranty or extended guarantee does the "Certified" give you???
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Replying to: nortsr1 (Aug 24, 2005 3:51 pm)  -------------- What is GM Certified? It's the reliability of new and the affordability of used. Body Points/Highlights: 110+ Point Inspection Everything from the exhaust system to cup holders is inspected and reconditioned, if necessary. If the vehicle doesn't pass, we don't certify it. Period. Road Test: 1. Check Vehicle History 2. Check for Open Safety Campaigns 3. Owner's Manual/Warranty Booklet 4. Seat Belts/Retractors/Air Bags 5. Mirrors 6. Indicator Light/Gauges/Warning Tones 7. Engine Start/Idle 8. Engine Operation/Performance/Acceleration 9. Shifting/Automatic/Manual 10. Anti-Skid/Traction Control 11. Braking/Anti-Lock Braking System 12. Steering/Alignment 13. Body/Chassis Integrity 14. Transfer Case 15. Cruise Control 16. Windshield Wipers/Washers 17. Speedometer/Odometer 18. Tilt-Wheel/Telescoping 19. Sound System 20. Heater/Air Conditioning 21. Horn Functional: 22. Key(s)/Key Fob/Remote Start 23. Rear Defogger 24. Luggage Compartment 25. Convertible Top/Boot Cover 26. Interior Lights 27. Exterior Lights 28. Doors/Door Locks 29. Weather Stripping 30. Seats/Child Safety Seats & Mountings 31. Fuel Door/Trunk/Hood/Hatch Release 32. Windows/Power/Swing-Out 33. Alarm/Telephone 34. Power Outlet(s)/Cigarette Lighter 35. Parking Brake 36. Sun/Moon Roof 37. Options/Accessories 38. ONSTAR Under Hood: 39. Visual 40. Electrical System/Battery/Starter 41. Engine Cooling/Radiator/Fan/Fan Clutch 42. Power Steering System 43. Brake System 44. Ignition System 45. Fuel System 46. Vacuum System 47. A/C Compressor/Drive Belt 48. Belts/Serpentine Under Vehicle: 49. Visual 50. Frame 51. Exhaust System 52. Brake Pads/Shoes 53. Calipers/Rotors/Drums 54. Brake Hydraulics 55. Tires 56. Wheels 57. Shock Absorbers/Struts 58. Springs/Sway Bars 59. Control Arms 60. Steering/Linkage 61. Engine/Transmission/Transfer Case & Mounting 62. Driveline/Driveshaft/Axles/Universal Joints 63. Axles/Differentials 64. Gear/Rack & Pinion 65. Parking Brake Cable Exterior: 66. Under Hood 67. Front Bumper 68. Grille 69. Hood 70. Left Front Fender 71. Left Front Door 72. Left Rear Door 73. Left Rear Fender 74. Trunk Lid/Truck Bed/Bedliner 75. Rear Bumper 76. Right Rear Fender 77. Right Rear Door 78. Right Front Door 79. Right Front Fender 80. Roof 81. Glass 82. Wheels/Wheelcovers/Trim Rings/Center Caps Interior: 83. Instrument Panel 84. Clock/Timer 85. Driver/Passenger Seats/Head Rests 86. Driver Door 87. Front Passenger Door 88. Front Carpet & Floor Mats 89. Console/Compartment Lid - Front & Rear 90. Rear Seat/Head Rests 91. Left Rear Door/Quarter Trim 92. Right Rear Door/Quarter Trim 93. Rear Carpet & Mats 94. Headliner/Overhead Console 95. Luggage Compartment/Cargo Area 96. Package Tray Maintenance: 97. Lube/Oil/Filter 98. Inspect/Clean Air Filter 99. Inspect/Change Other Items 100. Inspect/Top-off Fluids 101. Tire Pressure 102. Emission/diagnostic Trouble Codes 103. Fuel Level Interior Detailing: 104. Clean Instrument Panel, etc. 105. Vacuum and Clean Carpets/Trunk/etc. 106. Clean Glass Surfaces 107. Clean Headliner/Seats/Interior Cloth Trim Exerior Detailing: 108. Clean Engine/Compartment 109. Recondition/Touch-Up Minor Surface Scratches 110. Remove Tar & Road Oil 111. Wash/Wax 112. Clean/Detail Wheels/Wheel Covers/Tires 24-Hour Roadside Assistance We'll help change a flat tire, fill a gas tank and help get you moving again. Around the clock and around the country, your GM Certified Used Vehicle comes with helping hands. 3-Day/150-Mile Satisfaction Guarantee Take a few days and a few miles to get comfortable with your new GM Certified Used Vehicle. If you're not sure, bring it back. Market-Based Pricing Dealers price GM Certified Used Vehicles based on their determination of current market value. The price is posted clearly on the window sticker. No games. Just honest value for your money. Comprehensive Limited Warranty A 3-month/3,000-mile limited warranty protects you beginning the minute you leave our lot. It's not just protection for your car, but for your peace of mind. See your dealer for details. Built and Backed by GM GM Certified Used Vehicles are 2000 or newer, with less than 60,000 miles. They're available at select GM dealers. They're vehicles that met our tough standards when we first built them. Now they have to again, or they won't be Certified. The GM family of vehicles also includes Certified Pre-Owned Cadillac, Saab Certified Pre-Owned, and Used Cars from Saturn.
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