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399 messages, Last post on Oct 01, 2009 at 5:39 AM
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and added a "conquest" rebate of $1000... FWD, auto base Vibe with leather, power group, monotone, antilock brakes... sticker $20,940... purchased for $16,949 plus TT&L/doc fee seems like a good deal, dealer thru in window tint. Worked with Phillips Mazda in So. Cal. - very easy-going/low pressure... I'm happy with my purchase! |
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My concerns are; 1) Hearing about the paint job quality of the Vibe. 2) We want AWD but it seems the engine offered with this feature should have more pick up and go than the base model, albeit, it would take away from the gas mileage we have noticed is above average with this model. 3) We like the looks of the Vibe and it is a Toyota through and through as evident by it's stellar marks in Consumers' reports reliabilityratings and I believe it is even a recommended car in its class., But as stated before, is it worth going with the Matrix considering the problems with the exterior paint job quality? 4)We would like the leather option, but I do not see heated seats, an option very nice to have with leather, especially in the North East US. 5)Every automobile gets a change every now and then, I would expect there will be a big change in engine and styling with the Vibe and Matrix comming up soon, as they have not really evolved much from their first introduction, how far away are we from such a major change? 6) What gas mileage can I truthfully expect from the Vibe w/ AWD? Is it close or accurate as its sticker information? Thanks in advance to anyone who takes a stab at my concerns. Also, what would you think would be a good negotiated price for the following vehicle? MANUFACTURER'S SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE STANDARD VEHICLE PRICE*: $20,455.00 MOON AND TUNES VALUE PACKAGE SUNROOF, POWER (DELETES DUAL READING LAMPS) 200 WATT PREMIUM AUDIO SYS. INTEGRATED SUBWOOFER PACKAGE SAVINGS $300 $1,140.00 LEATHER SEATING SURFACES $700.00 4.24 AXLE RATIO NO CHARGE TOTAL PACKAGE SAVINGS $-600.00 PREMIUM MONOTONE APPEARANCE PKG $325.00 POWER GROUP VALUE PACKAGE REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY PROGRAMMABLE POWER DOOR LOCKS WINDOWS, POWER CRUISE CONTROL PACKAGE SAVINGS $300 $1,150.00 IN-DASH 6-DISC CHANGER $325.00 AIRBAGS, SIDE IMPACT-FRT & SIDE CURTAIN $745.00 TOTAL OPTIONS: $3,785.00 TOTAL VEHICLE & OPTIONS: $24,240.00 DESTINATION CHARGE: $560.00 TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE*: $24,800.00 STANDARD EQUIPMENT: Items featured below are included at NO EXTRA CHARGE in the standard vehicle price shown above. *** MECHANICAL *** 1.8L DOHC VVT-I ENGINE ALL WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM TRANSMISSION, 4 SPEED AUTO. 4-WHEEL INDEPENDENT DOUBLE WISHBONE SUSPENSION *** SAFETY & SECURITY *** DUAL FRONTAL AIR BAGS 4-WHEEL ANTILOCK BRAKE SYS. PWR. FRT DISC/RR DRUM BRAKES SAFETY BELT-LAP SHOULDER/F&R DAYTIME RUNNING LAMPS REAR DOOR SECURITY LOCKS *** EXTERIOR *** DUAL OUTSIDE POWER MIRRORS ROOF RACK 16" BOLT-ON WHEEL COVERS P205/55R16 ALL SEASON TIRES SOLAR RAY LIGHT TINTED GLASS FOG LAMPS, FRONT, INTEGRAL REAR WINDOW WIPER & DEFOGGER *** INTERIOR *** AIR CONDITIONING, FRT MANUAL RADIO, AM/FM STEREO W/CD EQUALIZER & RDS TILT STEERING WHEEL 2 PRONG HSEHLD STYLE OUTLET CENTER CONSOLE W/CELL PHONE HOLDER MANUAL DRVR SEAT HEIGHT ADJ. SEATS, 60/40 FOLD-FLAT REAR SEAT,FOLD-FLAT FRT PASSENGER CARGO TRACK SYS. W/TIE DOWNS Thanks Again
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We looked at a Pontiac Vibe today. It was base model, FWD, with automatic transmission and the power group value package. It did not have the monotone package. It is a two-tone. The dealer quoted us a price of: $19,390.00, then an employee discount of $1,773.85, which dropped the price down to $17,616.15. Then he took off $1,000 for the cash rebate, $1,000 for the conquest rebate, and an additional $200 discount, to bring the price down to $15,416.15 (before tax and title fees). I am wondering if this is a good deal. Thanks for any help anyone can give us. It has been awhile since we bought a new car. Kris |
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Replying to: civic4 (Aug 15, 2005 3:39 pm) 1) I have been tracking the mileage religiously. My average to date is 26.5 mpg. I've had a high of 28.8 and a low of 23.6 (per tank mileage). I drive about 50/50 city/highway. Seeing as how it is a new car and I can only expect the mileage to get better as the engine breaks in - I am very impressed with the mileage. I love not paying over $20 a tank to fill up! (although with the price hike that has gone up some!). The tank is very small, I usually only put about 10 gallons to fill it back to full when it hits empty. 2) I think the vehicle has plenty of power as well. Yes, merging on to freeways you have to mash the pedal to the floor and make the Vibe downshift, but once it does that I can usually get the car up to about 50-55 mph before my merge lane ends. I've had four adults in the car and the pickup was not noticably depreciated. I love driving this car around town, its small enough to fit in about any parking spot and it is nimble on the streets. 3) I have not had any paint problems but then this car is only 4 months old. I plan on waxing often and keeping it clean especially in winter with the snow and salt. I hope my observations help you. It's still a new car so I don't have much info to give you but I don't think you would be unhappy with the AWD. And to me the peace of mind is much worth it. Happy shopping!
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Replying to: civic4 (Aug 15, 2005 3:39 pm) With respect to gas mileage the AWD should be almost as good as the FWD model and mine seems to be living up to the advertised ratings. AWD Vibes only use AWD when it detects slipping, otherwise it is just running like a FWD model, except it is a little heavier. If you want true all wheel drive in this price range you might want to consider a subaru. I don't think the Vibe is due for a model change for a couple of years based on the sites I've visited. All and all it is a great little wagon, you won't be disappointed 
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| The employee discount porice, less the $1000.00 rebate, less the $1000.00 conquest incentive is about the best anyone can do...you might be able to get it for less...but...I doubt it....there is not much dealer profit on the Vibe. You can also use your GM points if you have any!!!! | |
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Is 117 correct? What is the basis for your statement that there's not much profit on the Vibe? It seems like many of the posters are getting about the same deal, the employee discount price minus the $1000 rebate minus the $1000 conquest incentive if you own a non-GM car. But what is the source of the employee discount price? Is it all from the manufacturer or does the dealer eat some of the discount off sticker price? If the employee discount price does come from the manufacturer alone, the dealer still gets a healthy profit - the difference between sticker and invoice, which is over $1000, plus their markup on all their options, plus their "holdback," which the manufacturer refunds to the dealer at the end of the quarter or year. |
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| vibe prices are inflated to make room for "rebates etc". when theyre running specials it seems you can get 3500 to 5000 off plus whatever gm points you may have, though in ill. 1000 seems to be the max to use though have said it depends on gm card.some states try to add an advertising fee of 400 so beware of that. it really all comes down to supply and demand. if your area has low supply you may have to pay more.be smart ask for alot off you may get lucky.happy hunting. | |
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The GM Employee price is "LESS" than the invoice price...and then...subtract the rebate and the Conquest incentive. How much more do you expect???. On the GM employee pricing "from the manufacturer", the dealer gets a FLAT FEE from the manufacturer for that particular sale. I will repeat..."The employee discount price comes direct from the manufacturer and if you are are in any doubt at all....it is at the righthand (near the bottom) of the invoice which I am certain any GM dealer will show you. If the dealer wants to give you part of his GM fee (which I doubt)...than go for it and good luck. I am in no way connected with GM...but... the dealer is entitled to some profit.!!!! |
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| The 2005 base Vibe I bought had a sticker price of $21,405.00. The selling price after GMS pricing (employee discount), $1000 customer cash, and the $1000 conquest non-GM product trade-in allowance was $17, 349.05. That was of course before tax, tag, and doc fee. The $17, 349.05 was about $200 more than the base price, and I got the power group value package (pwr windows, cruise, programmable keyless remote), moon and tunes (sunroof, 200 watt stereo with subwoofer), auto trans, aluminum 16" mags, and XM radio essentially for that $200. I am somewhat stunned that anyone would think they should be able to do any better. The GMS was about $500 below the invoice price, and then another $2000 came off of that. The only way they could have done any better was to not charge me a doc fee, but since I thought this was their only real profit I didn't balk. The only other profit they are making on these is holdback, and it is not appropriate to try and negotiate that into a deal, and I don't think anyone will let you. I am usually happy when I can buy for $300 to $500 over the invoice. To be able to buy for $2500 below invoice is a no brainer if you like the vehicle. The salesmen hate the GMS pricing because it makes all of these sales a minimum $100 deal to them. Don't worry about them though, they will take someone to the cleaners on your trade-in. If you are looking to buy a Vibe, now is the time! | |
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