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Re: smoking E 350, and I don't mean fast [hawkeyes2] by microrepair
Nov 20, 2006 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: hawkeyes2 (Nov 19, 2006 10:14 am)

Jeff,
 
I've got my second E320 bought when they were approx. 2 to 2.5 years old. Since the only Lexus that fits me (6'3") is the LS, the used E320 is a LOT less money than a used LS. And the MB Starmark Certified warranty is pretty much the best in the business. No co-pay, etc. and I usually buy some extra time to make sure that the mileage/time coincide roughly around the same time.
 
Fred
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Re: smoking E 350, and I don't mean fast [microrepair] by hawkeyes2
Nov 20, 2006 (4:04 pm)
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Replying to: microrepair (Nov 20, 2006 8:36 am)

Thanks Fred. I noticed that the E 320 is a lot less money than the LS 400, when both used. I am 6'2" and like the room too. I just drove a 1999 E 320, 58000 mi, and $15,900.
 
It had a lot of surface marks, and a ton of pits on the front grill, pass. I am picky.
 
But, the car itself looks like the one to own. I love the LS 400, in white particularly. But a 1998 with 80K miles was on the Lexus lot for $18,000...doesn't make sense. I would rather have the silver E 320 at 1999 or so for less.
 
Anything that I need to watch for as far as normal repairs in the first 100,000 miles? The salesperson always says nothing, but my Midas guy says pads and Rotors up front cost $600 and go quickly...due to the pads being too hard and the rotors too soft.
 
THanks...anything else I should watch for on this vehicle?
 
I assume repairs are very costly, but I have a Import Parts place that is like a Napa for imports.
 
Jeff
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Re: smoking E 350, and I don't mean fast [hawkeyes2] by steve3226
Nov 21, 2006 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: hawkeyes2 (Nov 19, 2006 10:14 am)

I like the way the E-320 handles (I've had 2). That said, Mercedes has given me a lot more mechanical problems. I've even had the entire transmission replaced on one (luckily, under warranty). My current '01 E-320 is still on extended warranty and I've not had any problems this past year. When it expires, I'll sell or trade it. Repairs are VERY expensive. I would NOT buy an old Mercedes out of warranty.
 
My wife loves her Lexus RX330. Zero problems in 2+ years. I have an '01 Lexus IS300 w/ 52K miles for sale for $15,575, if you're interested. It's fun to drive but very cramped.
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2001 E430 cold start noise by jodar96
Nov 21, 2006 (12:06 pm)
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I have a 2001 E430 with 82K miles. Bought it in March 2006 with 72K miles at the local MB dealer. It had three previous owners. It appears the car was gently used; no scuff marks in the interior, decent shape leather/carpet, no curb damage on alloys, and no underbody rust/leaks.
 
The engine has a noise at cold starts. It sounds like a lifter noise. When the engine warms up the sound goes away.
 
I checked the service record at the dealer before buying the car, it had its A and B service on time every time. I have changed the oil/filter myself and have used Mobile 1 0W-40 oil.
 
If it is lifter noise, does anyone know if MB will fix this at their expense. I know MB had a mess on its hand when people were going over 10-15K miles with regular oil with FSS. I change the oil every 7500 miles and do not trust even the modified 10K interval, but will stay with Mobile 1 for any future issues.
 
Thanks,
Joe
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Re: 2001 E430 cold start noise [jodar96] by ray_h1
Nov 21, 2006 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: jodar96 (Nov 21, 2006 12:06 pm)

)) "The engine has a noise at cold starts. It sounds like a lifter noise. When the engine warms up the sound goes away. ... If it is lifter noise, does anyone know if MB will fix this at their expense." ((
 
Dunno about M-B's willingness to comp goodwill repair work out of warranty, but that initial clatter might merely be timing chain noise through the plastic guides until the auto-tensioner pumps up with full oil pressure after a cold start. Might have an independent M-B tech give a listen and render an opinion. Then go from there. I have no issues about Mobil 1, but for an experiment, given what you related, I would try one oil change to Castrol Syntec Full Synthetic German Formula 0W-30. While nominally a 30 weight once warmed to operating temperature, it's a high 30 nudging hard at 40 according to used oil analysis reports archived at BobIsTheOilGuy.com. The Castrol is formulated to meet or exceed M-B's 229.1, 229.3, and 229.5 oil spec advisories.
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MB OIL______Change!!!!!!!!!! by greasykid1
Nov 22, 2006 (9:27 am)
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Just came home from my MB dealer. MB is now recommending a "special" MB only oil--5W-40. This oil is only available at MB dealers.
 
Anybody else heard about this?
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MB Factory Extended Warranty by greasykid1
Nov 22, 2006 (9:51 am)
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Have 2005 E320CDI with only 12,000 mi. Going to keep this car a long time.
 
Need info from anybody who has recently bought an MB extended warranty from a dealer. MB did not offer this until recently unless it was puchased at the time the car was bought. Heard that this can now be done at a later time.
 
Any help appreciated.
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Re: 2001 E430 cold start noise [ray_h1] by jodar96
Nov 22, 2006 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: ray_h1 (Nov 21, 2006 1:02 pm)

Thanks for your respond. Are you saying 40 weight might be too thick? No body says to use multi-viscosity oil with 40 or 50 high end weight except MB, BMW.
 
I had a 92 325i with an in-line 2.5 engine that had to use 10W40 winter and 20W50 in summer.
 
Joe
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Re: smoking E 350, and I don't mean fast [hawkeyes2] by goodbytes1
Nov 25, 2006 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: hawkeyes2 (Nov 20, 2006 4:04 pm)

Jeff,
 
You wrote, "I would rather have the silver E 320 at 1999 or so for less. Anything that I need to watch for as far as normal repairs in the first 100,000 miles? The salesperson always says nothing, but my Midas guy says pads and Rotors up front cost $600 and go quickly...due to the pads being too hard and the rotors too soft. THanks...anything else I should watch for on this vehicle?"
 
I purchased a '99 E-320 4Matic Wagon with 56k miles and have been very happy overall with it as it approaches the 100k mark. Beautiful driving and handling characteristics, solid, safe, perfect for the wife/kid.
 
Repair experiences: The front brake pads lasted 32k miles between replacements which I didn't feel was too bad. We did have to spring for a catalytic converter at 93k but most manufacturers don't make them to last past 80-100k so I'm comfortable with that as well. Got 40k miles on the stock Continental tires. I was disappointed when the sun roof stopped sliding past about 3 inches at 82k miles and will opt to fix that after the rainy season. Replaced a brake switch and a smattering of bulbs. But overall, nothing really serious to complain about so I'm happy.
 
From what I've read (including Consumer Reports), you may do better to stick to the '99 or earlier models for a used E-320. Mercedes is working feverishly to repair their tarnished reputation for way too many electrical problems so I would wait till 2008 if I was in the market for a new one. Good Luck!
 
John
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Update on smoking E 350 by engineer1
Nov 28, 2006 (4:56 pm)
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Did some tests-start car-let run a minute or so-shut it off and restart in 30 minutes. No smoke-so much for my theory.
  
Took car to MB dealer. Usual and totally expected response. Customer knows nothing-never heard of this problem before-probably condensation. MB did a software update on oil pressure monitor. Maybe clue. Does MB control oil pressure with computer? If so, this could be explanation-upon startup oil pressure sometimes too high over oiling pistons resulting in blue smoke. Anyone know anything about how MB controls oil pressure in new 3.5 engine? Would make sense though I have never heard of this before.
  
If it keeps it up, before warranty expires I will wave magic wand over the MB, sprinkle some foo-foo dust on it and turn it into a Lexus. That will fix the problem!

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