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#606 of 1173 Command Center failed to launch
Aug 07, 2005 (9:34 pm)
I have a 4 month old 2005 E-320 wagon. Yesterday I spent a night at a camp ground and slept in the car. In the morning there was a bit condensed water on the inside faces of window glasses (on rear windows, not front) as expected. However, the command center failed to launch. It just showed the big Mercedes logo and seemed to be trying to read DVD all the time. My guess is that its DVD reader somehow had moisture condensed on it. But there was only moisture on glasses in the morning, nothing on the wood trim, leathre, ... How could that bit of moisture go into the command center?
I'm going to call the dealer tomorrow. Meanwhile if you had similar experience please throw in you opinions.
#607 of 1173 Mercedes
Aug 10, 2005 (6:43 am)
Doing research for a new car purchase currently. This forum has been enlightening to say the least. Think maybe Mercedes (Chrystler) may have a significant problem in the future?...well anyway, guess I'll swing by the Lexus dealer now, their forum seems to be VERY positive!
#608 of 1173 Re: Mercedes [mw2727]
Aug 10, 2005 (7:25 am)
#609 of 1173 Re: Mercedes [mw2727]
Aug 11, 2005 (6:33 pm)
Oh yeah, go ahead and look at the Lexus forums........how many complaints are their about the hesitation problem with the transmission, even after the "firmware" update. What about the rattles, the engine noise, etc. I guess I'm wasting my time, you probably already made up your mind without really looking at all the complaints on that board.
#610 of 1173 Re: Mercedes [mezeca]
Aug 11, 2005 (7:44 pm)
Oh yeah, go ahead and look at the Lexus forums........how many complaints are their [sic] about the hesitation problem with the transmission, even after the "firmware" update
I was surprised to see this comment. I only closely follow the LS forums, but as far as I can recollect, everyone who ever had the software (not firmware) update on the '04-'05 models affected by hesitation later posted that that fixed the problem and they loved their car. I also just did a search on the forums on the new GSs on the word "hesitation", and about the only thing that comes up are people saying they wouldn't "hesitate" to recommend Lexus. Can you point us to any posts to the contrary?
As someone who owns 2 E320s (a '94 wagon and a '98 sedan, both bought new)and just bought an Lexus LS, I can say that build quality and reliability were big reasons why I originally bought my 2 MBs, and the same reasons I gave up on MB this time and went with the LS. For not much more than a new E (and much less than a comparably equipped S), the LS is much roomier and more comfortable; and if you liked the looks of the previous generation E, it's not hard to like the LS-- the deserved knock on it is that the LS styling is derivative of the Benz, but there are worse styles to emulate!
If anyone compares the comments on the MB Problems & Solutions forums to the Lexus Problems & Solutions forums, you'll quickly see a big difference: MB owners are complaining about their new cars, and LS owners are asking about issues with their 10-15 year old cars.
My bottom line: if MB gets its reliability back, I'd go for the MB, based on its slight drivability advantage; but until that happens, if reliability and roominess are important to you, go with the LS.
#611 of 1173 Re: 2005 E500 brake pump noise [billmann]
Aug 15, 2005 (11:37 am)
I had the car in for the 12K check up. I asked that they try to do something with the noise problem. They did. I can still hear it but it is not annoying as it was before. Hope you have some luck with yours.
#612 of 1173 where to get new brakes
Aug 16, 2005 (8:56 pm)
i have a 2002 e 320 which has been a pleasure to own.i now have a message that the brake linings need to be changed. is there any advantage to getting this done at the dealership, versus a generic brake shop like sears? thanks
Aug 17, 2005 (4:32 am)
I am looking at a 1995 e320 or 1995 e420. Any opinions on the reliability difference.
I have had MB for the last 14 years, both dealer bought and gray market and believe them to be the best cars (along with BMW).
#614 of 1173 Re: where to get new brakes [pvellozo]
Aug 17, 2005 (8:26 am)
Go with non-dealer service. Mine chaged at 1/2 price that dealer would charge me. Find someone you trust who has serviced MB and go with it. No difference, 1/2 the cost. I NEVER bring my MB to MB dealer
#615 of 1173 Re: Mercedes [garyh1]
Aug 17, 2005 (5:29 pm)
Look at the ES and RX forums, the complaints are plentiful, with most people saying that the "firmware" either did not fix the problem, or only made it worse.
While you are there, look at how many disappointed RX owners are there. Look at the response post about all the TSB's for noises and other issues.
Also, you say that MB owners are complaining about their cars. You are comparing one model(LS) to all of MB. You are right about the lack of activity on the LS board(even during the transmission and fuel pump recall in 04), but their is a great deal of activity on the ES and RX forums. Being that the RX is their biggest seller, that is saying something.
The LS is a good value for what you get. But it is not roomier than an S-class, unless you compare it to the short wheel base S350, which was just released in this country. The S-class has many advantages over an LS, but those are never talked about, because most people only want to factor the LS's JD Power survey score.
If you only look at JD Powers surveys, then I think you will be mislead. Unless all you care about is "reliability"(which to me, is the most misconstrued term in the automotive industry), then you should look no further than the "Power" surveys. Take Strategic Vision for instance, and look who tied for first. It is obvious that there are many owners who are very happy with their Benz's. To me, a software update on my Comand unit doesn't make me think my car is unreliable, but to JD Powers it does.