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Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan, Wagon
#568 of 1173 Re: My Gawd! [microrepair]
May 20, 2005 (1:27 am)
I strongly agree with pottsie on the dealer quality statement. My dealer must be one of the few good ones. I have no complaints with their work or attitude. And no complaints with either the 96 E320 I sold at 140K miles or my current 2001 E320 with 60K miles
I think that we're comparing apples to oranges here. The 1996 E class was an entirely different car, built by an entirely 'different' company in 2003 and 2004. Mercedes hadn't bought Chrysler back then, nor had they gone on their insane effort to make a car for virtually every price point short of a Yugo.
For me the question is, has Mercedes turned a corner -- made real efforts to restore quality and reliability? I would be curious to hear more from 2006 buyers.
I drove a 2006 E350 today (second test drive) and must say that as far as the interior goes, this car was made on the cheap, IMO. From the odd "leather wrapped" steering wheel to the thin, mint wafer size heat/air conditioning controls, "flimsy" is what spoke to me. The COMAND system and the radio looks like something that belongs in Boeing 767 cockpit, but certainly not in a car. Being over age 45, my eyes can't even make out the tiny numbers and symbols on the dash. Not a strong selling point for this demographic.
I think that the car drives and handles well, but the interior forced a no-sale for me. The fact that the tires whined something fierce didn't help either.
May 20, 2005 (10:03 am)
I went to the dealership and they were going to charge 100 bucks to run diagnostic and they wanted the car for a couple days.
I went to one of the quicky oil change places and they charged me 19bucks printed out the copy and reset the light in a matter of 2 minutes.
Code P0410 Sec. Air System Malfunction.
drove for a couple hours no light on yet, but does anyone know what the usually issue is with that code?
#570 of 1173 Re: My Gawd! [microrepair]
May 20, 2005 (3:04 pm)
Actually MB rose to top 5 in that survey. And just to provide counterpoint to all the complaints in this forum, I repeat that both my 2000 E320 4matic wagon and especially my 2005 E500 4matic wagon have been great cars to own and trouble-free.
#571 of 1173 Re: Check Engine light [streetfighter1]
May 21, 2005 (8:25 am)
It usually means the gas filler cap isn't on tightly. I have same engine light issue after I had new air filter installed by independent service. Gas cap is secured though. I'll take it to the dealer Mon. Car is still under warranty.
#572 of 1173 99 E329 two keys won't start engine
May 22, 2005 (8:17 pm)
#174 ABS/ESP malfunction by dcman2 Apr 30, 2003
I own a 2001 E320 with 14k miles on it.
I did not quite understand how a stop light malfunction causes a brake malfunction. Anyway, after service, the mechanic tried to start the car. The ignition does not recognize the key and the car refuses to start. The dealer is ordering a new key. Any of you ever had a problem like this?
#452 Re: ABS/ESP malfunction [dcman2] by brig Mar 14, 2005
hi- having the same problem currently with my 2001 E320. last summer i had the same ABS/ESP malfunction happen to me while i was driving the car. i called the dealership and they suggested for me to turn of the car and re start and see if it happened again. it never did. then in november the car would not start one evening and i ended up towing it. i called tele aid and they had never heard of it. i went and got my other key and it started. then yesterday that key stopped working and had to have the car towed again. now i have two keys that will not operate the vehicle. the tow truck driver had seen this before.
Had key malfunctioning problem on my 99E320 at 40K miles.
When key is in ignition and turned, cannot fire up the engine. The starter keeps cranking without you holding the key.
My friend experienced similar problem with his ML and said there is a malfunctioning chip inside the key and not recognized by the engine resulting in sending an engine kill signal to disable the car, an anti theft design. He ordered new key from the dealer with programing at total $120.
Drove to wife office to get 2nd key and it worked and fired up the engine. After that, the first key also worked.
A week later, it happened again. Now both keys don't work. Stranded at night, called MBZ 24 hours service. Operator instructed to use manual key to lock and unlock the door, then use the original key to start again. Won't work and MBZ operator now says it is the fuel injector/engine not getting gasoline and the car must be towed to MBZ dealership for repair.
As there is no dealership service open at Saturday night, return to car after dinner, 3 hours later. Using original key, the car started, and the second key also worked.
What seems to be the problem? The keys, or the engine will start only when cold or 2-3 hours after the engine cools down?
Someone also suggested in case of car computer problem showing malfunctioning display, disconnect the battery and reconnect after 5-10 minutes. The computer will reset itself. Would that solve some of the problem?
#573 of 1173 keys not working
May 25, 2005 (8:16 am)
I've seen someplace that the transmitter window on the key (look at the front of your "key" and you can see a little round window) can get dirty and cause the car to not start. If you clean that, it'll work again. Is it possible that the receiving side of the connection (what you are plugging your key into) is grimy or something? You may want to try cleaning that with a q-tip or something.
This is just a guess...
#574 of 1173 Navigation 2005 E500, Quality
May 25, 2005 (9:15 am)
I have had pretty good luck with my 05 MB. I have two, and they have only been in service for minor problems. I really like the controls on the E-class, and the way you can customize your display--I prefer to have the digital speed in the center of the instruments. The advantage of the nav system in the MB is that you can enter data without stopping. Lexus makes you stop the car to enter an address.
#575 of 1173 Re: 2005 E 320 with very noisy hydraulic brakes [robertg1]
May 25, 2005 (6:55 pm)
Point number one: There is a fix to significantly reduce this noise, it has been mentioned in this forum more than once. Point number two: Did any of you who are complaining about this noise being excessive not notice it during the test drive? Point number three: I have 12000 + trouble free miles on my Benz. Has only been to the dealer for an A-service, and two tire repairs from nails that the dealer took care of for free. I am very happy with my purchase and would do so again in a heart beat, the new E55 wagon that I just saw in the showroom is going to be the next one in the garage.
#576 of 1173 Re: 2005 E 320 with very noisy hydraulic brakes [mezeca]
May 26, 2005 (8:16 am)
Point 1. The car has been taken to the dealer several times. I showed the copies of e-mails. I was told there is nothing that can be done.
Point 2. My wife drove the car and did not notice the noise. Buyer beware!
Point 3 I am glad you are happy with your car. I was happy with my three previous MB. This one is so noisy it is embarassing to have anyone riding with us. The question is ; what is that groaning noise.
#577 of 1173 Re: 2005 E 320 with very noisy hydraulic brakes [robertg1]
May 26, 2005 (9:33 am)
Robert - I experienced a similar issue with noisy brakes on my 04 E320. My dealer "fixed" the problem with a felt pad - installed between the pump motor and mounting connection. I am not sure if this was an MB fix or local, but I rarely hear the pump and sometimes feel a gentle pulsation lasting about 4 seconds ... My MB dealer is Fletcher Jones in Newport Beach, CA - they have been great and would suggest having your service manager contact FJ directly to discuss this "fix" ... I have had most, if not all, of the issues discussed here - the dealer has not let me down on discussing the problems, suggesting a fix and follow-through. I cannot imagine enjoying another car more, but the problems can be very frustrating. My next purchase will be based on any future issues going forward, if a clean record I will be back, if not then I will look at something else. Good luck.