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#9962 of 10838 Re: 2005 LGT vs. 2006 LGT [kronogoose]
Mar 20, 2007 (10:14 am)
Here's the '06 Legacy page for the site juice listed above. It lists the changes over the '05 models.
One biggie not listed: Subaru changed the internal structure of the doors (not sure how, maybe more crossmembers?) to ace the side impact crash tests. The '05 did well on all other tests, but didn't get the best available rating on the side impact, so Subaru refined it and paid to have it re-tested. All '06-and-up Legacies get the top rating on front, rear and side impacts. It's not like the '05 performed poorly, but it's nice Subaru wanted to improve upon it.
#9963 of 10838 Bit Size for front diff. drain
Mar 20, 2007 (2:44 pm)
It's going to be a while before I actually need it but I was wondering if anyone knows the Torx bit size for this drain. I have an '07 Leg.-SE. I will need to purchase the bit since all of mine are too small.
Thanks in advance!
#9964 of 10838 Re: 2005 LGT vs. 2006 LGT [ateixeira]
Mar 21, 2007 (8:22 am)
That was exactly what I was looking for! Thanks. (And thanks Jeff)
Funny thing, I remember going to that website several years ago when I was shopping for my SVX.
And one more question for those in the know: how is the auto transmission on the GT? Specifically, does the transmission (full auto or manual shift) allow you to take advantage of the turbo?
I'm attracted to the LGT because it's offered with a manual, but most of the used models for sale around here have the auto. (Some listed on autotrader with a manual actually turned out to have an auto.) Would I be crazy to give up on the GT and just go for a WRX?
#9965 of 10838 Re: 2005 LGT vs. 2006 LGT [kronogoose]
Mar 21, 2007 (8:31 am)
I have an 05 LGT sedan with the Auto.
There are 3 modes - Auto, Sport and Manual. Auto acts like a regular Automatic. Sport acts like an automatic, but changes the shift points, where it shifts a bit harder, holds the gears longer and occasionally will downshift when you brake. Manual lets you run through the gears with either the shift, or using the steering wheel mounted buttons.
Sport mode is a hoot to drive. It snaps through the gears and does take advantage of the turbo. Red-line comes on very quick.
After 2 years and 40k, I primarily drive in Auto mode. Sport mode is fun, but I go way too fast, and it dings my mpg. Manual mode is a PITA, where you have to remember to shift. I occasionally downshift, and forget to upshift until the engine starts to wind out. Rob M.
#9966 of 10838 Re: Bit Size for front diff. drain [michaelnc]
Mar 21, 2007 (10:22 am)
Bit size is a T70. Since it is somewhat of a "specialty" part, planning ahead to acquire one is a good plan! I just recently drained the transmission fluid on my '07 Outback's MT, and I used a T60 to pull it. The T60 was a little small, but worked fine for this 30ft# application (it was the largest I could find locally).
#9967 of 10838 Re: Thoughts 07 LGT 5MT v. 08 LGT 5MT v. 3.0R [paisan]
Mar 21, 2007 (11:05 am)
"I guess we'll see what the pricing looks like. I like the idea of the 3.0R but I have a bad feeling it will be priced out there. If it's more than 4k more than the LGT then I'll just get the LGT."
Mike, did you see the '08 pricing? No invoices yet, but here are MSRPs. They did a great job keeping the price down on the 3.0R Limited vs. the Spec B, even though the 3.0R is supposed to be the flagship. BTW, Spec B does include Nav, though not shown on the chart. 3.0R Limited is $3k more than "base" GT Ltd, and actually $500 cheaper than equally-equipped GT w/NAV & VDC.
Maybe they're trying to keep the price up on the Spec B so that the rumored "surpise" top-level trim debuting at SEMA in October will seem like a reasonable increase.
#9968 of 10838 Re: Thoughts 07 LGT 5MT v. 08 LGT 5MT v. 3.0R [jeffmc]
Mar 21, 2007 (12:03 pm)
So now you have to get a high rider with big tires and fake off road suspension to get a wagon?
And you can only get sticks in base models?
Yikes, how much influence has Toyota had already?
#9969 of 10838 Re: Bit Size for front diff. drain [xwesx]
Mar 21, 2007 (1:14 pm)
Thanks for your response! I knew someone would know. Since it is so easy to change, I'll probably change the front diff. fluid every 20k, along with the transmission fluid. (LOVE that spin-on filter for the AT!)
#9970 of 10838 Re: Bit Size for front diff. drain [michaelnc]
Mar 21, 2007 (1:39 pm)
It was good timing on your part, Mike. I just changed my gear oil for the first time on 3/15.
There was a fair bit of discussion on/around the Torx bit and associated gear oil change, you can review here if you would like. It was mentioned that the T70 felt too large for one person's application and a smaller size was used, but again, for my '07 Outback, the T60 was definitely sloppy, but still large enough to do the job. (whew!)
Had a '96 with AT before this one. It did not have the spin-on filter on the AT, but never took the unit apart to change the internal filter. Just did "regular" fluid changes. No problems with it through 221,000 when the car was ruined. The towing company ended up selling the whole thing to a private party for parts, so would not be surprised if the drivetrain moves another Subaru a few more miles down the road.
#9971 of 10838 Re: Thoughts 07 LGT 5MT v. 08 LGT 5MT v. 3.0R [jeffmc]
Mar 21, 2007 (1:47 pm)
Very interesting. I thought the 3.0R would come in higher than the Spec B for sure.
We'll see how the Armada tows the 33 foot Cigarette Boat this summer and go from there.