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#8995 of 10833 first impressions by satire2

May 26, 2006 (5:52 pm)

I want to thank everyone who participates on the Edmunds Subaru forums. I've read every word here on the 2005+ Legacy, and it has been a great help. And it's been entertaining!
 
We now have a 2006 5EAT GT Sedan to compare to the 2006 4EAT 2.5i wagon we already owned. I think nothing I've noticed about the pair hasn't already been mentioned here already at some point in time, but here goes, anyway.
 
- the GT has quicker and firmer steering, but it isn't a night-and-day difference from the base model
 
- Legacy base wagons feel, in general, remarkably like GT sedans; the wagon/sedan differential seems less with Subaru than with other makes of cars
 
- I haven't aired out the GT yet, of course, but in terms of acceleration, it feels much like the current Accord V6, which we owned. Consumer Reports tested the auto V6 Accord and found a 7.4 secs. to 60mph time, and they tested a 5EAT Legacy GT, and got 7.5. That seems about right, so far, even though they tend to register the slowest test times in publisherdom.
 
- the extra power of the turbo really isn't all that evident in small town driving; the base seems almost as perky
 
- by its gauge, we've been getting 27mpg in the base wagon; from Rochester, we averaged 25 mpg in the GT in mostly New York State Thruway driving
 
- the GT and base are both equally quiet; I thought perhaps a sedan would be quieter than a wagon, but it isn't.
 
- both color interiors have merit. I like both. The sedan is silver/black, the wagon Atlantic Blue/taupe. I prefer cloth seats, but the leather ones are nice. I think the base cloth seats are super.
 
- the hood scoop helps you locate your own hood as you drive, which somehow, psychologically, feels "right" and seems to help handling feel. If someone here can explain to me why this is so, I'd love to hear why.
 
- the GT rides a tad firmer, which I think is actually more comfortable
 
- the GT seems to track a little bit better
 
- Van Bortel is non-haggle and they were super
 
- the gauges in the GT are cool
 
- the Auto Climate Control behaved itself well; as I think Kens said long ago in this forum, he controls it via the temp settings. That seems to be all the direction it needed on a warm day today.
 
- Brilliant Silver hides bug splats much better than Atlantic Blue, although A.B. may do it second best of all the available colors!
 
Again, thanks y'all....
 
=gregg=

#8996 of 10833 Re: first impressions [satire2] by kens

May 26, 2006 (9:02 pm)

Replying to: satire2 (May 26, 2006 5:52 pm)
Gregg,
 
Congrats, congrats, congrats!
 
I hope you are happy with the choice! I think you will be!
 
As for power and acceleration, give your LGT some time. After the first 200 miles or so, you'll notice the engine and tranny loosens up a bit and will be more responsive. The transmission, especially will improve as it learns your driving style.
 
0-60 in 7.5 is a very, very conservative number. Some enthusiasts over at LGT.com have estimated that the 5EAT should be hitting closer to 6 seconds based on dragstrip times.
 
And yes, Brilliant Silver is a great color for hiding blemishes!
 
Ken

#8997 of 10833 Re: first impressions [satire2] by ateixeira

May 30, 2006 (7:53 am)

Replying to: satire2 (May 26, 2006 5:52 pm)
Nice post, you're almost selling me on a base Legacy even though I'm a Forester guy!
 
-juice

#8998 of 10833 Edmunds on the '07 Spec, B & GT by rsholland

May 31, 2006 (8:18 pm)

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=115529

#8999 of 10833 Re: Edmunds on the '07 Spec, B & GT [rsholland] by satire2

May 31, 2006 (9:16 pm)

Replying to: rsholland (May 31, 2006 8:18 pm)
Yes, thanks for posting the link. I just read it, and am not sure how I feel about it.
 
Testers seem a tad leery of Subarus that come with high price tags, as if such a concept is suspect, even if the cars test well.
 
=gregg=

#9000 of 10833 Re: Edmunds on the '07 Spec, B & GT [satire2] by ateixeira

Jun 01, 2006 (10:43 am)

Replying to: satire2 (May 31, 2006 9:16 pm)
$34k is a drop in the bucket for a sports sedan loaded up with heated leather, moonroof, and GPS NAV that can play in this league.
 
I think if Jason were to price a 330xi with those items the sticker shock might change his mind about the price of the Subie:
 
base $38,500
freight 695
NAV 2000
keyless 500
leather 1450
power seat 995
heated seat 500
split folding rear seat 475
 
A mere $45,115.
 
-juice

#9001 of 10833 Re: Edmunds on the '07 Spec, B & GT [ateixeira] by locke2c

Jun 01, 2006 (12:21 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 01, 2006 10:43 am)
BMW trades heavily on their name, not value, so I would not compare to them. Literally everything except a Mercedes-Benz is going to offer more for the money than a BMW 3-series.
 
I know there aren't many things quite like a spec.B, but my initial impression is that I wouldn't spend $34,000 for one. I know you can option a Mazdaspeed 6 to that same price, but again, I don't think I'd be a consumer for that.
 
The regular Legacy GT makes sense to me, but I'm still on the fence about the spec.B.
 
~Colin

#9002 of 10833 Re: Edmunds on the '07 Spec, B & GT [locke2c] by ateixeira

Jun 01, 2006 (1:04 pm)

Replying to: locke2c (Jun 01, 2006 12:21 pm)
You can't fault Subaru for offering many options, though. I've seen GTs for as little as $23k, left over 2005s at the end of the year.
 
I'm sure some people wish that had a 6 speed...
 
-juice

#9003 of 10833 Re: Edmunds on the '07 Spec, B & GT [ateixeira] by krzyss

Jun 02, 2006 (10:43 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 01, 2006 1:04 pm)
"You can't fault Subaru for offering many options"
 
I wish Subaru offered options. These are not options.
You want 6MT? You need different suspension, fancy alcantara seats, navigation system, VDC and rear Torsen LSD.
 
You want only one of these?
Go somewhere else.
 
Krzys

#9004 of 10833 Re: Edmunds on the '07 Spec, B & GT [krzyss] by locke2c

Jun 02, 2006 (12:10 pm)

Replying to: krzyss (Jun 02, 2006 10:43 am)
I just can't believe the fools made the rear differential a torsen while the front remains open. That's so stupid. Putting the torsen up front would have FAR more effect.
 
~Colin

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