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#6713 of 10833 Re: A couple of concerns [mcaspe1]
Mar 07, 2005 (4:53 am)
note that legacy had a 170hp turbo in early 90s which didn;t have any problem.
shame on you asking the WRC three time winner that if turbo will fail (just kidding).
see consumer reports 2005, the most reliable brand for 2004 is Subaru, yes ahead of honda/toyota.
yes, stability control (VDC, subaru's is very effective) would be nice. it depends on how badly you need to buy. FOr e.g i am waiting till early next year to see if 2006 model will have it. we will know in NY auto show in apr 2005.
#6714 of 10833 Re: performance? [ntk1]
Mar 07, 2005 (4:56 am)
how does it compare to Vishnu's ?
what happened to your gas mileage ?
i suppose i can do this once 3-yr warranty expires ?
#6715 of 10833 Turbo and stability control
Mar 07, 2005 (9:08 am)
First, keep in mind that Subaru has been using turbos for a good long while, and the WRX and STi have been in this country, enduring American drivers, for a few years and have had no problems.
I've had my Legacy GT Limited wagon since June (11,000 miles), through several snow storms and lots of rain and sleet, and never had a problem or wished for stability control. There were a number of times I drove up snowy hills past spinning, swerving SUVs.
#6716 of 10833 Stability control
Mar 07, 2005 (9:16 am)
Would be nice, and Subaru needs to address this, because it is easily the feature most asked for by prospective buyers.
Having said that, S/C will maximize what traction is available, but only AWD or a LSD will actually increase the amount of traction available.
Ideally you'd have both, but I'd pick AWD over S/C alone, any day.
#6717 of 10833 I would prefer
Mar 07, 2005 (9:50 am)
car with proper tires above any mechanical devices (RWD, FWD, AWD, LSD , etc., etc.).
#6718 of 10833 Re: I would prefer [krzyss]
Mar 07, 2005 (11:45 am)
sub AWD makes a difference. there have been days where there is upto 3 ft of snow, i never showel. i put my OB to test & it always works !!!
my MPV with traction control & good winter tires won;t. i will still need to showel
Mar 07, 2005 (1:15 pm)
True, but you control tire choice. It's a little harder to add AWD to an existing vehicle.
#6720 of 10833 Re: A couple of concerns [mcaspe1]
Mar 07, 2005 (2:18 pm)
From their tract record, Subaru turbos appear to have reasonable reliability. Nevertheless, turbos are generally not as reliable as normally aspirated vehicles because they generate extreme amounts of heat and result in more engine wear. Thus, while the technology for turbo engines is much improved, they still wear a little harder than normally aspirated engines.
With respect to stability control, I personally do not view it as something that is there to help you in everyday situations to gain traction in basic weather conditions. I view it as being there in an emergency to assist you in making the correct move to avoid disaster. My VDC's stability control has come into play on a couple occassions and I was thoroughly satisfied with its performance. It gives me peace of mind to know that it is there if/when I need it. The real benefit to stability control is the ability of the car to react to road conditions quicker than those conditions can be communicated to (or even recognized by) the driver. In those situations where you don't even realize the ice is there, etc. is where stability control really shines.
#6721 of 10833 ECU reflash on 2005
Mar 07, 2005 (2:56 pm)
I just got a letter from SOA that they want me to reflash my 2005 VDC. They say the new programming allows the ECU to override manual mode in cases where transmission damage would occur.
Mar 07, 2005 (3:10 pm)
Ok, I am looking at getting a 2005 Outback XT and noticed that it says premium unleaded fuel. Obviously the car won't blow up if I put regular unleaded in it, but, will I notice the difference if I don't? I guess asking anyone for their thoughts on if premium HAS to be used or for the most part can you get away with regular unleaded. Looks like we will be getting to $3/gallon prices this summer for regular unleaded looking at the forecasts.