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#6422 of 10838 Climate control and mileage
Feb 01, 2005 (1:24 pm)
I have an 05 2.5i ltd legacy wagon. I don't find the climate system to be too bad. I generally in this weather go manual by setting the mode to the foot mode. Between my wife and I we use about a 5 degree temp. difference on the settings. Seems to put out plenty of heat. No fogging problems either. In fact the side windows in back in my 2002 WRX wagon fogged up worse. My biggest weather related gripe was that in a severe snow storm that we had in December I could not keep the washer jets free of snow. The wipers direct snow down into the trough where the wipers park and since the spray type washers are down there they get burried in snow easily. Give me a streaming washer mounted on the hood anyday.
As to mpg. I have 5000 miles on the car which is an automatic. The trip computer seems to read about 1 mpg high. I am getting about 22.2 on it on average so 21.2 seems about what it is. This is for city driving. So I am about one mpg low. As to the highway I have seen as high as 28 so that puts me realistically about 3 mpg south of the EPA number. But I can tell you that my Subarus pick up at 10,000 and again about 20,000. In fact at 20,000 I was getting 29 highway on my 2003 WRX here in the midwest which was 2mpg+ EPA. So I am not too sorry about trading some horsepower (especially since I am really impressed as to how much power the "weak" 168 hp NA engine has.) because I am expecting to get good mileage this summer at high altitude when I go to Colorado. I should be able to break the 30 mpg barrier (my wrx averaged 30 mpg all the way back from Utah to Indiana at 70 mph. Some tanks exceeded 32 mpg and no tank was less than 29 on that 1500 mile run). (OK, it is 5000 ft. downhill!)
formerly "TWRX" now "Ag-Ltd"
#6423 of 10838 Re: Monotone OB [c_hunter]
Feb 01, 2005 (1:28 pm)
I've never been troubled by the lack of range in my OBXT because I need to take a break after about 150 miles of driving anyway as my legs and hands need a break. So I get gas and resume the trip. Actually I like to use the trip timer and stop every two hours just to loosen up.
Feb 01, 2005 (2:02 pm)
i am getting quotes for 3,000 below MSRP on XT Ltd. in boston area.
anyone got better offers than this ?
#6425 of 10838 Re: Cold feet? [occking]
Feb 01, 2005 (2:04 pm)
when defrost, turn off the internal air. defrost makes a big difference.
#6426 of 10838 Re: Climate control and mileage [twrx]
Feb 01, 2005 (3:15 pm)
Approaching 3000 miles--one month. Twice averaged (actual 25 mpg on extended trip highway miles) A few times in the low twenties. Yesterday on first leg of trip in cold weather (0 to 5 above all highway, averaged around 23. On return trip, in warmer weather trip computer said I was getting 29, so I may have been getting around 27. Haven't filled up yet & computer now down to 25 mpg because of 25 or so miles put on for short distance driving. I would hope when weather improves to average at least 26 or 27 or so straight highway & maybe more when fuel changes. Car seems to be running quieter now that it has a few miles on it. But boy, when you hit a little bump in the road the back wheels come right off the ground. I would hate to going around a corner quickly & hit a bump like that I can't imagine what would happen.
Feb 01, 2005 (3:44 pm)
<<And to the response about none of the cars listed be available in the mid-20's: yes they are, or will be by the end of the model year. . . . I fully expect the AWD Ford/Mercury to be on fire sale by the end of the year. The Magnum, maybe. The Mazda, probably. BTW, I had a 1988 Mazda 323GTX, and it handled the road nicely.>>
Umm, good luck trying to find a new A4 Quattro, Passat 4Motion, or V50 AWD for "mid-20s." Don't hold your breath.
And MAZDASPEED6? It won't even be for sale until next spring and the base MSRP starts at $28 without options--i.e., compares with the Legacy GT, which is subject to more discounts than the newer Mazda. I doubt Mazda will have a "fire sale" for the MAZDASPEED6.
Feb 02, 2005 (7:53 am)
Krisshna: I thought you'd wait to see a Tribeca?
MZ6 will hit about $32k when equipped like a Legacy GT Limited.
You can get a base Leg GT sedan for under $25k nowadays.
The Mazda does have HIDs, bigger rims, and a 6 speed manual, though.
#6429 of 10838 fogging issues, etc.
Feb 02, 2005 (10:11 am)
99.99% of fogging issues during the winter are due to people using the "recirculate" function on their climate control systems. Even with AC on, if you have recirculate on, you will get fogging.
The best way to drive is w/recirculate off and AC on during the winter months.
This past weekend the wife just upgraded her 2003 Legacy GT wagon to the 2005 version (limited). Switched from manual to auto trans. This car is like night and day when compared to the 2003 model. This is a very very nice vehicle.
I have to admit that I, too, think the climate control system has a mind of its own. However, it is just the temperature, the overall airflow seems fine. The 2003 was always stuffy inside and I was always having to mess with the climate controls.
Every other facet of the car is a major improvement over the 2003.
#6430 of 10838 Re: Any one had this problem?
Feb 02, 2005 (10:15 am)
Just turned 3000 miles today in 2.5 LT. I am aware that snow can clog up the wheel wells & cause a lot of vibration in the vehicle. This happened to me a few weeks ago but when the buildup melted, the problem went away. However today on a 200+ trip on dry roads with absolutely no build up on wheel wells got extreme vibration for almost entire trip, particularly noticeable at speeds from 55 to 70 (more pronounced the faster I went) The vibration was so great you could see the passenger sheet shaking & I would not have even attempted to hold a relatively full cup of coffee. I pulled over a few times & could see nothing in the wheel well or anything obvious on the tires (like a huge wad or gum, or asphalt or something like that) Then, as quickly as it started it was gone. Up to 75 with no vibration at all. I stopped by the dealer & his first reaction was snow or something in the wheel well but I told him that was not the case. He did mention that the wheels on these vehicles, or the way they are sitting on the vehicle are very subject to this kind of problem. Anyone out there had this experience.
That was not fun driving 200 miles plus today all highway & having that constant vibration.
#6431 of 10838 Re: fogging issues, etc. [bigrobnh]
Feb 02, 2005 (10:18 am)
I agree! As much as I dislike the ACC system on my OBXT, I have NEVER had any problems with foggy windows and I live where the climate is very humid and cold through fall and winter. The windoes are always clear and the system does an amazing job of warming the cabin fast.
But if I switch to recirc, then the windows will fog up within a couple of minutes, faster if there are more people in hte car.
So I agree w. BigRob, there are no such issues with this car.