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Jan 29, 2005 (7:26 am)
Craig: so true, my wife will take her coat off and then she wants a warm interior. But the rest of us bake because we still have our coats on!
I need dual zone! Maybe tri-zone!
IMO the base Legacy is just fine for 80% of the buyers, and the 20% of us that want it sporty would opt for a GT anyway.
2004 was a record sales year for the Legacy, best ever for Subaru also. They know exactly what they are doing, and they nailed what consumers want in each model. That's how they got record sales!
-juice
#6364 of 10833 Re: Monotone OB [ssminton]
by occking
Jan 29, 2005 (10:00 am)
Live outside Providence, RI. I am aware that the cold weather certainly can affect the gas mileage & not overly concerned about what I am presently getting. On a recent trip up into New Brunswick two weeks ago did average both times exactly 25 mpg. That is not based on what the computer said by actualy consumption, miles divided by gallons. I always fill up the vehicle myself so I know when it is full it is full. Both times, however, the trip computer was inaccurate, showing approx 1.5 to 2 mpg higher than actual. I had same problem in previous car, 2005 Malibu MAXX. Will get another workout in 8 days when I head this time to Montreal. Still wondering if I should have spent a little more & gotten the turbo or the six. I suppose I will never know.
Since I have put on a few thousand miles, the pickup does seem a little better. I do not have a lead foot, however and on highway driving rarely go over 70 so I am hoping with warmer weather on long trips to average close to the 28.
Still trying to get used to low armrest on center console. Not ready to spend $150 or so to buy the extended version. Found I can get somewhat comfortable resting right arm on the armrest at the elbow and hand one on the emergency brake handle.
#6365 of 10833 "armrest extension" and MPG
by orangelebaron
Jan 29, 2005 (10:40 am)
I refuse to spend $130 or more for an "extended armrest"...something that SHOULD be standard, especially when this "extended armrest" doesn't even add to the storage space in the dinky console. For $130, I'll get a piece of packing foam or something and stick it on top!
Before it got really cold here in NY, I was averaging 20.7 mpg, suburban mixed driving (Nassau County may have well be considered city driving these days).
The last 500 miles, I'm only averaging 18.3 mpg...
Oh well... I bought the LTD. base engine auto to save gas and premium fuel costs and I'm not getting any better gas mileage, but I sure am getting a somewhat underpowered vehicle!
Jan 29, 2005 (11:23 am)
Perhaps the regular 2.5L is jealous of the its turbo brethren and is trying to match it fuel economy wise?
-B
#6367 of 10833 Re: [ateixeira]
by c_hunter
Jan 29, 2005 (12:39 pm)
Craig: so true, my wife will take her coat off and then she wants a warm interior. But the rest of us bake because we still have our coats on!
That is how it works for us too. Inevitably, I will end up in the car with a jacket on while my wife doesn't have one. And then the temperature wars begin. Best situation would be for me to be in a t-shirt and shorts and her in a down winter jacket/pants. Then, maybe the climate control system would have a chance to please both of us!
Craig
#6368 of 10833 Re: Monotone OB [occking]
by c_hunter
Jan 29, 2005 (12:50 pm)
Speed definitely impacts the mpg on my OB XT. At 65mph, I can get a solid 26-28mpg (according to the trip computer). At 80mph, I am getting 20-21mpg. I am betting the turbo is boosting at 80mph....
As it is now with the XT, I can barely make the 320 mile round trip to go skiing on one tank of gas (running on fumes as I pull into the garage at home basically). But I do a solid 80mph both ways. Next trip I will knock the speed down to 70mph and see how the gas mileage improves. I bet it will help a lot (I'll just have to leave the house earlier to get my prime ski-in/ski-out spot in the parking lot on the hill).
The XT models really need another 2-3 gallons capacity in the tank. That would make life easier. I don't mind lower MPG or higher fuel costs (as Sly mentioned, it's a cheap "tax" for the added power/fun) but filling up the gas tank several times a week is a pain.
I am starting to visualize my next car -- Outback or Forester with 400+ mile highway range and good power. That probably means an improved base engine (200HP would be nice and Honda can do it so why not Subaru) and a slightly larger gas tank. Add aux-in on the radio, crystal gray paint, and a few other upgrades, and I will get in line.
Craig
Jan 29, 2005 (1:23 pm)
Craig, how about a Tribeca?
I bet it wouldn't look as bad in black. . .
For my next car, I'd like an AWD Hybrid wagon that gets 60mpg, does 0-60 in 4 sec, has an interior like a Lexus and built like a MB, handles like a BMW. Oh yeah, for under $40K.
Barring that maybe I'll get an OB so I can get to trailheads more easily than with my GT ltd.
tom
Jan 29, 2005 (1:45 pm)
I definitely like the Tribeca, but it would probably be overkill for our family of two. Also, it seems to offer a little less utility than my Outback for home projects and sports due to the roof rack situation; less versatile rack and higher roofline = headaches. Having lockable Yakima crossbars on factory side rails has been a great feature on all three Outbacks I have owned.
Having owned Outbacks and Foresters (at one point we had both!), I can't ever see not having one of those vehicles in the family -- they are perfect for our situation. Now, watch me do a total 180 someday when my wife decides it's time for kids...
Craig
#6371 of 10833 Re: [ateixeira]
by crashton6
Jan 29, 2005 (1:58 pm)
Hey Juice,
Hate to burst your bubble on the dual zone being the fix for you family heating disputes. My wife has dual zone on her Audry A4 & while it does come out at two different temps it all just mixes up in the interior. Dual zone isn't really the answer. The answer is join her, take off your coat.
Chuck
Jan 29, 2005 (2:05 pm)
I think it must be partly psychological. In fact when we are in her car, my wife laughs whenever I fiddle with the passenger side temp control, as if she knows a secret. In reality, it's probably just making me *think* my side is cooler
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Craig