Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+

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What is this discussion about? Subaru, Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Sedan, Wagon




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#3478 of 10833 by ateixeira

Aug 10, 2004 (10:11 am)

2005 Subies are selling well, they had a record July.
 
It'll be hard to predict rebates. The market is hyper-competitive, and that increases their likelihood.
 
But...Subaru had no rebates at all on the Forester from 1998 until around 2001. That model was popular and never needed them.
 
All 2004 Subies had them, though, and I would not be surprised if they had small ones on the 2005 Legacy, but only near the end of the 2005 model year. In other words, a year from now.
 
My best guess.
 
-juice

#3479 of 10833 Follow up to previous question by ntk1

Aug 10, 2004 (10:48 am)

some weeks ago I posted details of an engine hesitation problem at medium throttle acceleration levels on the LGT MT. A number of other owners experienced the same (RSQ et al).
The dealership couldn't detect the problem - I now understand that this was probably due to the busy road/traffic conditions they used around the dealership location not really allowing them to exercise the car fully. I have searched a number of sites and have established that this problem is not unique to the 3 or 4 people mentioning it at this board (even one journalist auto tester seemed to have exactly the same problem as me and was not too complimentary). I have 1500 on the ODO now and the problem is not getting any better so here is my plan - at the end of August I have to visit a certain middle East country to help sort some problems out for Mr Bush. I will let a senior mechanic at the Subaru dealer use my car for a week so that he can experience the problem himself and hopefully start running some diagnostic testing. When I return I will post my findings, in the mean time if anybody hears anything on this subject on a different board please notify me
Pete

#3480 of 10833 Re: Legacy Outback worst rollover rating? [mylegacy] by lumbar

Aug 10, 2004 (11:00 am)

Replying to: mylegacy (Aug 10, 2004 10:07 am)
Granted that this is the 2004 and that the 05 has a lower center of gravity despite it's higher profile, but it strikes me that this info still has some relevance--not the least for those who are driving the previous generation. It also strikes me that it's worth looking into the extent to which the new version has lowered the center of gravity, and I still think that one has to accept these tests (just like the side impact tests and braking info) as saying -something- worth knowing, particularly given Subaru's desire to position itself in the "safe car" segment of the market. How -much- one wants to rely on the info is obviously up to the individual.

#3481 of 10833 by ateixeira

Aug 10, 2004 (11:08 am)

Pete: sounds like a good idea. I'm glad they agreed to do that more thorough check/test.
 
-juice

#3482 of 10833 by ateixeira

Aug 10, 2004 (11:10 am)

Depends on how you read those rollover ratings. The 2004 Outback is about only half as likely to roll as that Toyota pickup.
 
For anyone that puts this as a high priority, I suggest the VDC model, or any car with at least stability control.
 
-juice

#3483 of 10833 Re: CD-Rs [tsy] by frankw

Aug 10, 2004 (11:27 am)

Replying to: tsy (Aug 10, 2004 12:47 am)
Actually, I also bought mine on 6/30, so maybe you should be congratulating me too!
 
Congratulations, Tom!
 
On another topic, here in Santa Fe we are in a restricted water usage regime. I believe we may not wash cars at home and may only go to a commercial car wash once per month. On the other hand, usually the only dirt that gets on the car is a very fine light brown dust. What do those of you who use clay, Klasse, etc. recommend for this situation?
 
Frank

#3484 of 10833 not fast.... by njswamplands

Aug 10, 2004 (11:31 am)

take my most demanding use of my cars. accelerating into 2 lanes of 60mph traffic with no acceleration lane, uphill and water/snow is usually in this area.
 
now take your fast mustang and my fxt and lets see who can get up to speed.
 
these guys think that everyone is driving in SoCal type conditions.
 
now that is just straight line, now get a wet curvy road and any subie takes the mustang.
 
and what about at high altitudes when those NAs lose there punch, let alone a gravel type road. i love these 15 minutes of edit time....
 
heck look what mike, paisan, does in his old old subaru against the high power cars on the track...

#3485 of 10833 by ateixeira

Aug 10, 2004 (11:34 am)

You forgot "at high altitudes", where non-turbos are wheezing and losing power.
 
-juice

#3486 of 10833 Rollover.... by hypov

Aug 10, 2004 (11:36 am)

aren't those rating based on mathematical calculations?
 
If they are derived from real world testing, how do they come up with percentiles like 15.9, 12.1, etc...? Also, if they are physically testing for rollover, how could they know it will roll with those training wheels in the way?
 
It will take alot of bad luck, throw in bad road condition(s) and terrain(s), to roll the OB.
 
-Dave

#3487 of 10833 Re: Rollover.... [hypov] by njswamplands

Aug 10, 2004 (11:38 am)

Replying to: hypov (Aug 10, 2004 11:36 am)
It will take alot of bad luck, throw in bad road condition(s) and terrain(s), to roll the OB.
 
yeah juice didnt even roll one at las vegas....
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