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#3171 of 10833 1600 Mile Observations
Jul 26, 2004 (3:05 pm)
Wonderful posts, everyone. Thanks to all.
I picked up my Atlantic Blue Legacy GT 5EAT wagon almost three weeks and 1600 miles ago. Very nice so far. I'm quite happy.
At 60 MPH I was getting 30 MPG avg. At 75-80 MPH was getting 24 MPG. Obviously less than that around town. As I recall, my 1996 Saab turbo gained another 2 - 3 MPG after 10K miles, let's hope this engine also does. Yes, it is hard to stay under 4K RPM although now that I've passed the magic 1000 mile mark I don't find myself up there much. I will admit to liking the turbo rush.
The turbo gauges are the best, very cool. My 7-year old likes watching them almost as much as I do. The rear cargo area retractable cover/crossbar really do fit under the cargo area.
I've not encountered the radio static nor the hesitant acceleration others have.
Steering does feel vague in the middle, as if there's no dead-center, but is quicker that anything else I've driven once it grabs.
The automanual seems smooth, though I've not yet really wrung it out. In non-manual mode I notice that the sport setting downshifts more aggressively and noticeably (even under light acceleration) than the normal mode.
I sent an email to Subaru and they sent me the 3/36K warranty coupon. Before that I called them and they asked that I call back once the dealer enters my car's VIN into Subaru's system. Try enough Subaru sources and you'll probably succeed.
The autodimming mirror is too low for me, doesn't dim rapidly enough, and doesn't pick up lights in it's periphery very well.
The small flip-out bag hooks in the cargo area work well for plastic grocery bags.
Skip the anti-skid mat accessory. You can get the same stuff at any hardware, WalMart, etc. It's simply a black 33" square section of that small, multi-beaded rubber drawer liner stuff.
Has anyone used the roof rack square crossbars ? I was walking through the installation and the angle of the mounting to the wagon's existing roof rails seems to put a lot of pressure on the small tongue of the attachment piece. Oh well, another opportunity to contact Subaru online.
I just checked tire pressure and it was low 2 lb in the rear and 3.5 lb in the front. Putting them back to 33/35 makes a positive difference. I advise checking yours.
Keep up the posts and enjoy your new cars.
#3172 of 10833 Re: Legacy second-worst rating possible [mylegacy]
Jul 26, 2004 (3:40 pm)
Do people really based purchase decisions on this info? I bought a car (Olds Intrigue) that had very low side impact crash ratings and didn't give it a 2nd thought. I'd be more more concerned about long term reliability than about crash ratings. I've been driving 40 years and the only accident I've been involved in was a sideswipe that was my fault. No injuries and minimal damage.
#3173 of 10833 Re: aaykay [alpha01]
Jul 26, 2004 (4:07 pm)
Nope- the Accord EX 4 cylinder comes standard with a seat mounted side airbag (chest) ONLY. The curtain side airbag is a stand-alone option on the the Accord 2004 Accord EX 4 door. The ONLY Accord model with the Side Curtain standard is the EX V6.
Sorry, I should have modified my statement to: All leather clad Accord models, regardless of the number of cylinders, come standard with Side Curtain airbags (2004 model year onward). This of course would include the EX-L (4-cylinder with leather). Honda does not have standalone options from the factory. They only have trimlines. Either the trimline comes standard with a certain feature or it does not.
#3174 of 10833 Re: Legacy second-worst rating possible [lmacmil]
Jul 26, 2004 (4:14 pm)
I took the same approach too, until I attended the funeral of one of our young managers, a couple of months back. Drove a Grand Prix which was hit in the side by a SUV (low-speed collision) at a traffic signal. The side just caved in, like a cardboard box - where did all those engineering dollars dealing with structural strenth go ?? Now I pay more attention to such things as structural strength of the car and side impact safety.
#3175 of 10833 Re: aaykay [aaykay]
Jul 26, 2004 (4:22 pm)
"Honda does not have standalone options. They only have trimlines. Either the trimline comes standard with a certain feature or it does not."
You can get an EX (cloth) with Side Curtian airbags, it is not a standard feature. Call it what you want, but in my book its an "option" because you can opt to get an EX (cloth) without side curtains, or with side curtains that are installed at the factory. Something installed at the factory and not standard on a vehicle is how I define option. I agree with you otherwise... all other Honda additions are dealer or port installed accessories. Side curtains on the cloth EX Accords, however, are not.
#3176 of 10833 crash ratings
Jul 26, 2004 (5:21 pm)
So, how does the new Legacy compare to the old one?? Coming from an 02, I have to believe the 05 model is better (no side curtain airbags at all in the 02).
#3177 of 10833 Outback tailpipes
Jul 26, 2004 (5:26 pm)
One of the visual features I like in the Legacy GT and miss in the Outback is the dual chrome tailpipes. After looking at the tailpipes on my Outback, I decided to try adding chrome exhaust tips. I got some stainless oval tips at Advance auto for $8.50 each. They have a simple but effective clamp/attachment setup and a scarfed outlet. They ended up fitting pretty well, though it took me a few tries to get both tips lined up symetrically (OCD). Here are a few pics:
#3178 of 10833 Re: aaykay [alpha01]
Jul 26, 2004 (5:46 pm)
You can get an EX (cloth) with Side Curtian airbags, it is not a standard feature. Call it what you want, but in my book its an "option" because you can opt to get an EX (cloth) without side curtains, or with side curtains that are installed at the factory.
If you scan through Edmunds' trimlines for the Accord, you will find those as 2 separate trimlines. In the trimline that comes with side airbags, it comes standard and is not an option. In the trimline that does not have side-airbags, you cannot add it, no matter what. So if you order for an EX-cloth with Side-airbags, you will get exactly that and nothing more. A EX with cloth anywhere in the country would have exactly the same features standard, while an EX with side-airbags, would have the exact same format throughout the country, except for colors.
This is distinctly different from the approach adopted by Toyota, who have around 3 trimlines for the Camry (LE,SE,XLE?) and a boatload of options and option-packages. The same trimline of the Camry at the same dealership, would have any number of combinations of options.
Subaru is more oriented towards the Honda approach, than the Toyota approach.
#3179 of 10833 Re: Outback tailpipes [c_hunter]
Jul 26, 2004 (5:47 pm)
Really look nice!