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Keep in mind, this is in comparison to a Mini Cooper S, the car I have put 35,000 miles on in the last year and 3 months. The Cooper has a quite stiff ride, moderate acceleration, and corners like a go-kart. In high-speed (60-80mph) turns, the GT wagon is very stable, some body lean but not a lot, and very easy to control with adequate feedback from the wheels. On tighter turns (35-50mph, the ones with yellow caution signs that say 25-30mph) body lean is more pronounced but still not bad at all - and the engine is strong enough, even in 5th gear, so that you can change the balance from understeer to oversteer quite easily (may also have something to do with the AWD system and the viscous front-back coupling). Overall, it has an excellent balance handling and ride. It is not as extreme as the Cooper, and would have trouble keeping up with the Cooper on twisty roads (as would just about any other car in this price range), but on a straight stretch it is no contest at all. To be honest, the car that the Subaru reminds me of most is the car I owned prior to the Cooper, which was a Lexus GS400. That car was also very quiet, had a strong (300hp) engine, and handled pretty well. However, the Subaru is quieter, handles better, and feels even quicker - not to mention being 20k+ less expensive. The interior on the Lexus was nicer, and had features that the Subaru may never have (auto down and up on all four windows was pretty nice) but they are at least headed in the right direction. As I got further north, and the traffic thinned out, I filled up with gas in Cloverdale and reset the computer. The rest of the drive home was almost all highway driving, mostly rolling hills with a few miles here and there of 2-lane twisties, then a trip up to the airport and back to pick up my car. Filled up with gas the next day (yesterday, actually) and the computer indicated 25.8mpg - with an actual calculated figure of 24.4. Not bad at all, considering the engine is brand new. Now, its back to the Cooper for me, and stern warnings to my wife to not exceed 4000rpm (which I did at least twice on each day I drove it - my bad). At this rate, though, it won't take any time at all to get past break-in. I can't wait to really wind it out. Phil
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Replying to: alpha01 (Jul 15, 2004 1:22 pm) Come on Subaru, make it available!
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The fender trim is also on my 02 Outback -- it's just a piece of flexible "C" channel that seals up the edge of the metal, probably to keep the paint from getting beat up. On the front fender, there is no trim but the front fender well has a large plastic liner whereas the back us just undercoated body metal. I would put silver as my first choice except that my wife's car is silver. It's really one of the best colors for not showing dirt or scratches, and is cool in the summer. For a little variety in the driveway, I will shoot for Atlantic Blue if it's available (plus it looks gorgeous to me with the black interior). Craig |
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Replying to: lotsabones (Jul 15, 2004 4:38 pm) |
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Replying to: rellom (Jul 15, 2004 5:07 pm) Also, will anyone who (like lotsabones, above) gets near 25mpg or over with the turbo (Legacy or Outback) please post your experiences. I'm printing out the info and placing it on the wife's pillow. Those getting less than 20 need not apply--this is a domestic sticking point.
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Tom: Below is the photo of my rear wheel well. I think I also have the trim that you asked about.  Craig: Below is a photo of the subwoofer. It's TINY! It's smaller than the unit in my Forester. I'd say it's roughly the width and height of a VCR tape. It does extend further into the seat than the photo shows, however.  Hope that helps. Ken |
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Replying to: lumbar (Jul 15, 2004 7:06 pm) |
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That is a small Sub, looks smaller than the one in my WRX (which is about 8" x 10"). Maybe I will just leave it alone! Craig |
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Yup, that's the fender trip I was talking about. It's just interesting it's not on the front fender, but Craig answered that question too. Phil- congrats on the new wagon. I'm glad you got the MT, i was starting to feel lonely. How do you like the short shifter? I'm thinking about installing it, and there isn't one at any of the dealers near me to try. I'm getting a little over 21 mpg in mostly city driving. I drive up and down a lot of hills so my mileage has been on the low side of every car I've owned. I suspect if you live where it's more level you're mileage would be better. If you drive gently I think you can do even better. tom |
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Anybody know the max cargo weights for the Outback and Legacy GT wagons? Or gross weights? Can't seem to find this info anywhere. I'm curious if there is a difference betweenthe two. Interesting that Subaru gives the towing loads and tongue weight, but not the cargo loads. thanks, Craig
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