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Subaru, Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Sedan, Wagon
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#2008 of 10833 Re: ntk1 [c_hunter #2007]
Jun 06, 2004 (8:38 am)
I completely agree- when comparing acceleration figures, I feel its best to hold constant as many variables as possible- which means comparing results from the same source (which holds procedure, equipment, etc. constant). I favor Car and Driver because of their more useful though less examined "Street Start 5-60" measure, which is a far better gauge of the performance that can be achieved by most people. Also helpful are the 30-50 and 50-70 passing tests, to measure merging and highway passing ability.
If I had the money, Id be in a Legacy 2.5GT Limited manual sedan tomorrow. This is one hot line of cars, and I hope Subaru's profits go through the roof.... freeing cash flow for even better designs. Can we get a successor to the SVX, please?
#2009 of 10833 Re: VIN Coding - 2005 [subaru_team #2005]
Jun 06, 2004 (9:19 am)
Thank you Patti - for your quick response. But I am still not clear on the engine code that will be used for the Legacy GT limited sedan. Engine type 6 is the 2.5 non turbo engine code isn't it? The others you listed are for the wrx, the sti and the six cyl, or do I just not get it yet?
thanks for your help.
#2010 of 10833 Re: water [rob_m #1975]
Jun 06, 2004 (11:08 am)
i also wonder where the water is coming from (apart from the sky!). Just stopped by a Subaru dealer. I looked closely for "rain gutters" but could not find them. Everything on the top seemed quite smooth so water should drain off quite easily. So, again, where would the water from heavy downpours accumulate and spill over when the doors are opened?
#2011 of 10833 Re: water [snowbird #2010] I encountered the water problem too
Jun 06, 2004 (12:15 pm)
After a heavy downpour, I sat in an OB. When I opened the left door, about a cup of water went on my pants and left arm. Right door? Same result.
On another OB, I noticed a heavy accumulation of water drops hanging from the rubber seal over the door. It didn't look like enough water to cause the drenching that I got. I didn't try that car, but I suspect that the water is somehow accumulating in the rubber seal and then being squeezed out when the door opens. This is speculation, but can't see any other reason for the problem.
#2012 of 10833 Re: Power Oversteer [ateixeira #1999] My wife wants a....
Jun 06, 2004 (12:20 pm)
A major requirement is safety and the Forester has it in spades. And she wants something that "...looks like an SUV, not a station wagon..." (her words).
Hmmm... I think I'll have her drive the OB. Just to get her opinion, you understand.
#2013 of 10833 Re: [kens #2003] Not sure about the spool up, but...
Jun 06, 2004 (12:28 pm)
I read one or two reviews where the reviewer mentioned the difference in performance. It might be the breakin level, but I tend to think it might be an ECU programming thing.
Also, I noticed that the OB didn't feel as stable as the GT in turns or when changing lanes quickly and braking. I wrote this off as just the OB being 2.6 inches higher. However, one reviewer noted the same thing that I felt. He thought that the OB needed better/stronger shock absorbers. Food for thought.
Jun 06, 2004 (12:37 pm)
" For most driving conditions, the two will be similar. However, in very slippery conditions, you can feel power go fore and aft on the VC as it cycles through locking and unlocking."
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
#2015 of 10833 Re: Ken [sebberry #2014]
Jun 06, 2004 (1:13 pm)
Probably not a good thing. It's a strange feeling -- you can feel the front end loosen up, then the rear, then the front. While I continued to track straight, it was a strange feeling feeling the power oscillating.
#2016 of 10833 Re: water [bookemdano #2011]
Jun 06, 2004 (2:19 pm)
If this is a problem, could it be fixed? Although by no means a dealbreaker, my boss (wife) would not be too amused if she got drenched on an evening out by her own car and not even an umbrella would help. Any suggestions from SOA?
Jun 06, 2004 (3:20 pm)
I'd like to take a look at the new Legacy/Outback rain gutter design. I had to replace the gutter on my 02 wagon when I scratched it up with lumber. It's a pretty neat design -- almost perfectly concealed. There is a regular looking rain gutter channel stamped into the sheet metal, and then the black gutter trim (which appears to be stainless steel covered with rubber/plastic) goes over that. It attaches from the underside of the door opening (with screws) and then the rubber gasket and weatherstripping for the glass opening snaps into it.
I'd have to look at the new cars to see what the gutter trim looks like and if it could be the source of leaks.