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#10765 of 10833 Re: 2005+ head gasket "new design"? [robertjames] by kouc52

Mar 13, 2010 (3:35 pm)

Replying to: robertjames (Feb 21, 2010 3:45 pm)
I have 64k on my legacy GT and I had the same thing happen. Turbo banjo bolt oil line filter screen get clogged and kills oil to the turbo... turbo then kills the engine. Subaru can't build EJ engines fast enough... one dealer in my area did 15 legacy's last year for this problem. The dealer i sent my car too had one on the lot in for the same problem. I loved my Subaru till this happened and the fact there is no recall is shocking. I don't know of anyone and there are allot of posts online that has got Subaru to cover this at any mileage even with oil change records. Pretty Sad... I was going to get the boxer Turbo Diesel when it came out... but no way now.

#10766 of 10833 Re: 2005+ head gasket "new design"? [kouc52] by lilengineerboy

Mar 13, 2010 (6:48 pm)

Replying to: kouc52 (Mar 13, 2010 3:35 pm)
I loved my Subaru till this happened and the fact there is no recall is shocking.
 
Recalls are for safety related items.
 
The Federal Government doesn't care if you bought a crummy car. If your car takes off on its own, spontaneously combusted, or can't steer, they step in. If its someone not standing behind their product, its why we have a free market.

#10767 of 10833 Recall -vs- TSB by bpeebles

Mar 15, 2010 (6:00 pm)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 13, 2010 6:48 pm)
You are correct that a "Recall" is for safety (or emmissions) related items.
 
I find it interesting that some people expect the government to "protect" them from every annoyance in their life. In the end, those people will be sorely disapointed. (The politicians only care about your VOTE so they can keep spending your money.)
 
However, there are TSB (Technical Service Bulliten) which are intended to cover the items which do not rise to the level of a "Recall". You can review the 'open' TSBs against your specific vehicle at several websites.
 
An automobile manufacturer is not obliged by law to inform you about TSBs... The consumer must research these themselves, print them out and TELL the dealer about it. I have had good luck getting dealerships to work with me once they know I am informed about the problem.

#10768 of 10833 Re: Recall -vs- TSB [bpeebles] by lilengineerboy

Mar 15, 2010 (9:08 pm)

Replying to: bpeebles (Mar 15, 2010 6:00 pm)
However, there are TSB (Technical Service Bulliten) which are intended to cover the items which do not rise to the level of a "Recall". You can review the 'open' TSBs against your specific vehicle at several websites.
 
True but a TSB isn't an extended warranty. If a vehicle is under a manufacturer's warranty and is brought in for service, a TSB can be applied. If the vehicle isn't under warranty, sometimes a dealer/manufacturer will do something for good will, but for the most part, the customer has to pony up for the repair.

#10769 of 10833 Re: Recall -vs- TSB [lilengineerboy] by dgreene1

Mar 16, 2010 (11:21 am)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 15, 2010 9:08 pm)
Very interesting discussion.
 
I think a lot of people don't know about TSB's. I've got a 2010 Legacy with an annoying squeak in the front seat. When the dealer mentioned that there's a TSB out there for a very similar issue, I found it in one of the of TSB's on the Subaru website. I also found one or two others that may be applicable to my car's performance, but unfortunately, the dealer will only apply a TSB if you report a problem that can be specifically related to it (so we made something up ).
 
From now on, I'm checking the TSB list periodically...

#10770 of 10833 More on TSB's by robr2

Mar 16, 2010 (12:36 pm)

Sometimes TSB's are nothing more than a better procedure for doing a repair, info on new tools or just general notes the manufacturer issues on certain components.

#10771 of 10833 Re: Recall -vs- TSB [bpeebles] by kouc52

Mar 16, 2010 (3:12 pm)

Replying to: bpeebles (Mar 15, 2010 6:00 pm)
I have both TBS on the Banjo filter problem... thanks for the info I will use your advise. I don't want no bail out i just don't think it is fair to be blamed for a problem i did not cause and Subaru should fix.

#10772 of 10833 Re: More on TSB's [robr2] by dgreene1

Mar 17, 2010 (1:21 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Mar 16, 2010 12:36 pm)
robr2, you're right. There's a Legacy TSB right now about paint colors. But there are also TSB's out with programming changes to tweak the car's performance. The TSB about my seat issue has appeared to fix it.

#10773 of 10833 08 Legacy seat comfort by rebel71

Mar 19, 2010 (2:10 pm)

Just curious, I've got an 08 Legacy and can never seem to comfortable in the seat. It's an electric seat and the padding seems lacking. The seat is narrow and the side bolsters are hard. I'm small so it's not because I'm large. I miss my 95 impreza seats they were comfortable. Does anyone else experience fatigue, and back issues from the seat. I was going to buy a 2010 impreza but it seems like those seats are similar.

#10774 of 10833 Re: 08 Legacy seat comfort [rebel71] by xwesx

Mar 19, 2010 (5:23 pm)

Replying to: rebel71 (Mar 19, 2010 2:10 pm)
I had an '08 Outback, which I suspect has the same seats, and I loved them. The seats are very firm, but they form well to my body. I drove that car about 5,500 miles over a five-week span (1200 miles in 24 hours at one point) and experienced no fatigue (from the seat!) at all. I really enjoy Subaru seats.

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