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#10762 of 10833 Re: Do Subarus have problematic air conditioning [prm21557] by bpeebles

Jan 12, 2010 (4:31 pm)

Replying to: prm21557 (Jan 12, 2010 4:21 pm)
1st of all, lets keep in mind that AC and heating are 2 COMPLETELY differnt systems. They only share the delivery method (airflow) AC comes from a compressor, condenser and evaperator. HEAT comes right out of the engine.
 
I suspect there is something not right.... My 2006 Baja (based on the Legacy) has GREAT cooling and above-average heating. (albiet it only has to cool/heat half the space as the Legacy wagon)
 
Can you better describe the problem? Do you sense that it is lack of airflow... or is there plenty of air but not enough coldness/heat in the air?
 
If an airflow problem, check if her car has a cabin-filter... has it been cleaned/changed lately?

#10763 of 10833 Re: Do Subarus have problematic air conditioning [bpeebles] by ateixeira

Jan 12, 2010 (6:35 pm)

Replying to: bpeebles (Jan 12, 2010 4:31 pm)
I was thinking the same thing.
 
See if there are any signs of rodent nests in any of the HVAC tubing, perhaps blocking the air flow.

#10764 of 10833 Re: 2005+ head gasket "new design"? [bpeebles] by robertjames

Feb 21, 2010 (3:45 pm)

Replying to: bpeebles (Nov 14, 2009 2:16 pm)
Not too harsh. I've driven two Ford Taurus' and a Toyota Avalon each more than 250,000 miles without significant repairs. My 2005 Subaru Outback Turbo blew the turbo at 61,800 miles and Subaru wouldn't cover the repair under its 60,000 mile warranty, even though it warrants the turbo to 70,000 miles in California. They know there is a problem with an oil line screen, but they won't stand by their cars. I'm getting rid of the Subaru and won't own another one.

#10765 of 10833 Re: 2005+ head gasket "new design"? [robertjames] by kouc52

Mar 13, 2010 (3:35 pm)

Replying to: robertjames (Feb 21, 2010 3:45 pm)
I have 64k on my legacy GT and I had the same thing happen. Turbo banjo bolt oil line filter screen get clogged and kills oil to the turbo... turbo then kills the engine. Subaru can't build EJ engines fast enough... one dealer in my area did 15 legacy's last year for this problem. The dealer i sent my car too had one on the lot in for the same problem. I loved my Subaru till this happened and the fact there is no recall is shocking. I don't know of anyone and there are allot of posts online that has got Subaru to cover this at any mileage even with oil change records. Pretty Sad... I was going to get the boxer Turbo Diesel when it came out... but no way now.

#10766 of 10833 Re: 2005+ head gasket "new design"? [kouc52] by lilengineerboy

Mar 13, 2010 (6:48 pm)

Replying to: kouc52 (Mar 13, 2010 3:35 pm)
I loved my Subaru till this happened and the fact there is no recall is shocking.
 
Recalls are for safety related items.
 
The Federal Government doesn't care if you bought a crummy car. If your car takes off on its own, spontaneously combusted, or can't steer, they step in. If its someone not standing behind their product, its why we have a free market.

#10767 of 10833 Recall -vs- TSB by bpeebles

Mar 15, 2010 (6:00 pm)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 13, 2010 6:48 pm)
You are correct that a "Recall" is for safety (or emmissions) related items.
 
I find it interesting that some people expect the government to "protect" them from every annoyance in their life. In the end, those people will be sorely disapointed. (The politicians only care about your VOTE so they can keep spending your money.)
 
However, there are TSB (Technical Service Bulliten) which are intended to cover the items which do not rise to the level of a "Recall". You can review the 'open' TSBs against your specific vehicle at several websites.
 
An automobile manufacturer is not obliged by law to inform you about TSBs... The consumer must research these themselves, print them out and TELL the dealer about it. I have had good luck getting dealerships to work with me once they know I am informed about the problem.

#10768 of 10833 Re: Recall -vs- TSB [bpeebles] by lilengineerboy

Mar 15, 2010 (9:08 pm)

Replying to: bpeebles (Mar 15, 2010 6:00 pm)
However, there are TSB (Technical Service Bulliten) which are intended to cover the items which do not rise to the level of a "Recall". You can review the 'open' TSBs against your specific vehicle at several websites.
 
True but a TSB isn't an extended warranty. If a vehicle is under a manufacturer's warranty and is brought in for service, a TSB can be applied. If the vehicle isn't under warranty, sometimes a dealer/manufacturer will do something for good will, but for the most part, the customer has to pony up for the repair.

#10769 of 10833 Re: Recall -vs- TSB [lilengineerboy] by dgreene1

Mar 16, 2010 (11:21 am)

Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 15, 2010 9:08 pm)
Very interesting discussion.
 
I think a lot of people don't know about TSB's. I've got a 2010 Legacy with an annoying squeak in the front seat. When the dealer mentioned that there's a TSB out there for a very similar issue, I found it in one of the of TSB's on the Subaru website. I also found one or two others that may be applicable to my car's performance, but unfortunately, the dealer will only apply a TSB if you report a problem that can be specifically related to it (so we made something up ).
 
From now on, I'm checking the TSB list periodically...

#10770 of 10833 More on TSB's by robr2

Mar 16, 2010 (12:36 pm)

Sometimes TSB's are nothing more than a better procedure for doing a repair, info on new tools or just general notes the manufacturer issues on certain components.

#10771 of 10833 Re: Recall -vs- TSB [bpeebles] by kouc52

Mar 16, 2010 (3:12 pm)

Replying to: bpeebles (Mar 15, 2010 6:00 pm)
I have both TBS on the Banjo filter problem... thanks for the info I will use your advise. I don't want no bail out i just don't think it is fair to be blamed for a problem i did not cause and Subaru should fix.

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