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#10653 of 10833 Flutter with warm start
Mar 08, 2009 (5:00 pm)
Hi, I have a 2005 Subaru Outback sedan, 6 cyl with automatic. It's recently started to flutter slightly when warm starting, but I've had no other problems. I use the recommended premium gas. The car has only 18,000 miles on it and has been serviced regularly. At a recent, major service, the dealer didn't have any ideas....said to come back if a light went on. I'm out of warranty due to the age of the car, which I have had since it was new. No other problems so far. Any ideas?
Thanks very much.
#10654 of 10833 Re: Flutter with warm start [idearequest]
Mar 09, 2009 (7:32 am)
Could you more fully describe "flutter". I own the same car with about the same miles.
#10655 of 10833 Re: Flutter with warm start [saedave]
Mar 13, 2009 (4:00 pm)
Thanks. It's like a slight stumble while starting....as though it's stuttering for a second or two, but it doesn't pause or anything more. Is your car newer? I haven't driven mine a lot, thus the small number of miles for its age. Thanks.
#10656 of 10833 Re: Flutter with warm start [idearequest]
Mar 13, 2009 (6:27 pm)
Mine is the same age, but has no problems. First thoughts:
The 3.0 likes 91-93 octane.
Is your engine temp normal when it stutters....the 3.0 is known to have some hot spots in the cylinder head which were cured in the 3.6l re-design. The cooling changes are what permits 87 octane in the 3.6. Check coolant level. Some earlier 3.0 engines needed "burping" to get rid of air in cooling system...try a search for much earlier posts.
Are you sure there is no water in your fuel?
Have you tried an Italian tune-up...wide open throttle to max shift points under full load several times.
#10657 of 10833 Re: Cold feet? [occking]
Mar 17, 2009 (10:41 am)
I have poor circulation so my feet are always freezing while the rest of my body is ok. With a 09 outback I could never get my feet warm, either on the driver side or passenger side.
The problem with the Subaru design is that the "feet only" setting is almost identical to the "feet and windshield" setting, where most air flows out of the windshield vent and the console vent, and just a fraction comes out of the floor vent.
I wonder if this is something the dealer can tweak. Otherwise this car is going to be a major main for me to drive in the winter...which ironically was what we bought it for!
#10658 of 10833 Re: Cold feet? [schen1]
Mar 17, 2009 (12:05 pm)
You can close the dash side vents, so more air will flow to the floor. It won't be much more, but it will be a small improvement.
When it comes to climate control, you, unfortunately, have one of the worst cars in the world. Subaru just doesn't get the concept, even after all these years.
#10659 of 10833 Re: Cold feet? [samiam_68]
Mar 17, 2009 (1:41 pm)
That's a bummer! The car is otherwise perfect, but climate control is so important to me! I did specifically make sure that they had a "feet only" option but I guess I didn't have cold feet that day. It's less than 2 months since we had the car,
#10660 of 10833 Re: Cold feet? [schen1]
Mar 18, 2009 (11:35 am)
You didn't mention if you had the manual or automatic climate control. If it is the automatic CC, do you have it set on auto. or are you playing with the buttons?
#10661 of 10833 Re: Flutter with warm start [idearequest]
Mar 19, 2009 (8:26 am)
2005 models were first produced early 2004 and you probably didn't get yours until May or June the earliest. The drivetrain warranty is good for 5 years.... so unless you got yours in March of 04, I don't see how your warranty is expired. You only have 18K as well.
#10662 of 10833 Re: Flutter with warm start [orangelebaron]
Mar 19, 2009 (3:38 pm)
Thank you for that reminder. What expired were my previously purchased service tickets, so my comment about warranty was likely wrong. I'll double check. Thanks again!