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#10548 of 10838 Re: Reliability?? [jprinzo]
Jul 02, 2008 (11:51 am)
I don't think the problems you're mentioning are all that common, to be honest.
Subaru did in fact have a serious issue with head gaskets up until about the 2002 model year. Wheel bearings, too, on Forester and Impreza.
Look at CR data, though, and you'll see they've improved even in those areas and have always been above average. JD Power has them just above average IIRC, and Strategic Vision has handed out a few awards, FWIW.
I think the problem here is you're looking at a very small sample. A few cars don't really tell much of a story, you have to look at a large sample of thousands of cars to make any real conclusions that are statistically significant.
Here's another source, truedelta.com. I like them because they actually verify the VIN for each car and you have to not only register but also remain in touch with them by providing quarterly updates. CR and JDP surveys only measure how a consumer feels on one particular day. Link:
The Forester and Impreza are made in Japan, FWIW.
We had great luck with a 98 Forester and an 02 Legacy. Dad has an Outback, sis has a Forester, and my brother has an 03 Legacy sedan. None of us have had any major repairs. Still a small sample that doesn't mean much, however.
We just bought our 3rd Subaru, a 2009 Forester, so far it's defect-free.
#10549 of 10838 Re: Reliability?? [jprinzo]
Jul 02, 2008 (6:44 pm)
Fortunately all those problems sound like they happened under warranty!
No problems with our '06 Legacy or '06 Outback (or previous '04 Outback, for that matter). If you're searching for '05-07, I'd start with '06. They made some safety changes to earn 5 star side impact and get top scores all around. I've also heard of the occasional electrical glitch with '05s. '05 was the first model year of the current body style and was a HUGE leap over the previous generation. Any little nitpicky issues were pretty much ironed out by '06.
'06 also added some nice features vs. '05:
power gains to 175 hp and 169 lb/ft torque
i-Active Valve Lift system
standard engine immobilizer w/electronic key (insurance co. should like that!)
standard 17" alloys
standard air filtration
new overhead passenger airbag on/off, seatbelt warning light
new dashboard illumination and daybright on/off control combined
#10551 of 10838 Outback w/ a Baby Seat
Jul 05, 2008 (7:53 pm)
I went to check out the '09 OB today and found out that not much has changed. New sound system and they dropped the LL Bean. A big negative for me is the backseat. The '09 Forester is roomier and i was hoping they would do the same to the OB. My question is, will a rear facing baby car seat fit in the middle of the rear seat? We own the Graco Boulevard and it is quite large ... takes up most of the rear in our Prius. I know Subaru doesn't recommend the middle seat, but I prefer it because it is much safer.
#10552 of 10838 Re: Outback w/ a Baby Seat [icdavi]
Jul 07, 2008 (5:02 am)
You need to take the seat and try it at the dealer.
#10553 of 10838 subaru problems
Jul 07, 2008 (9:53 am)
92 Legacy L sedan, 100K miles, no engine/drivetrain problems except sensors when it was 10 yrs old
92 Legacy LS wagon 90K miles, no engine/powertrain problems
98 Legacy LS wagon 130K, no engine/powertrain /problems (did have oil leak and need a new a.c though at 60K but had ext warranty)
02 WRX wagon 40K, no engine/powertrain problems yet
06 Tribeca 36K, no engine/powertrain problems yet
08 Outback 12K, no problems except annoying exhaust rattle they've tried fix twice already
06 Sienna 45K needed a new tranny! (as good/bad as my 95 and 00 Windstar which both needed new trannies at about 40K which was why we got a Toyota this time, our Chevy Venture went 140K with no tranny problems!- I guess thats why GM sell trannies to BMW!!))
its all in the luck of the draw but Subaru engine/powertrain problems with significant failures are rare in my experience
#10554 of 10838 Re: subaru lack of problems [cptplt]
Jul 07, 2008 (9:59 am)
I changed the title for you.
#10555 of 10838 2006 Legacy 2.5i Fuel Economy
Jul 08, 2008 (8:32 am)
I cannot find the fuel economy thread for the Legacy, so I figured I would post here.
I'm looking at a pre-owned 2006 Legacy 2.5i or a 2006 Forester 2.5x for my wife to replace her 2002 Impreza. Both with an automatic transmission. Can anyone tell me what they realistically get for mileage around town and on the highway? Her Impreza is not that great. 25-26 highway, and 18 around town.
Any thoughts would be appreciated! Thanks.
#10556 of 10838 Re: 2006 Legacy 2.5i Fuel Economy [aviboy97]
Jul 08, 2008 (12:36 pm)
You'll probably notice about the same thing. The good thing is as an `06 you're already outside of the weird 5000-10000 mile break-in period for the fuel economy, it seems. People will get very low mileage for the six months it seems, then it will gradually increase.
Subaru still has the same engine (2.5 Liter H4) so what you see on their website for the `08's will be accurate.
#10557 of 10838 Re: 2006 Legacy 2.5i Fuel Economy [aviboy97]
Jul 08, 2008 (5:16 pm)
Since all cars that you mention use the same engine/transmission/drivetrain I suspect the heaviest one will get the worst milage and lightest the best (unless gear ratios are different).
Your Impreza might have the best milage.