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#10544 of 10758 Re: When Will The Outback Restyle....Hybrid? [akg] by ateixeira Jun 30, 2008 (6:59 am)
Replying to: akg (Jun 30, 2008 6:38 am) Should be about a year from now, with the 2010 models.   Hybrids are a tough call. Subaru already has a diesel in Europe so that's likely to appear first.   Toyota increased their ownership in FHI to 17%, so they may want to hedge their bets and let Subaru do diesels while Toyota does hybrids. Replies to this message: jeffmc (Jun 30, 2008 8:53 pm) ateixeira (Jul 01, 2008 12:13 pm)
#10545 of 10758 Re: When Will The Outback Restyle....Hybrid? [ateixeira] by jeffmc Jun 30, 2008 (8:53 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Jun 30, 2008 6:59 am) Did you see Subaru just put out another electric concept? Stella as an EV. They've not shown anything hybrid since the B5-TPH concept nearly 3 years ago, AFAIK. But they've continued to show us R1e, G4e and now an EV Stella. I think we may see full electric Subarus before we see a hybrid, if they even do a hybrid at all. If they've got a hybrid in the works anywhere, they're certainly hiding their hand well. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 01, 2008 12:13 pm)
#10546 of 10758 Re: When Will The Outback Restyle....Hybrid? [jeffmc] by ateixeira Jul 01, 2008 (12:13 pm)
Replying to: jeffmc (Jun 30, 2008 8:53 pm) Interesting point.
#10547 of 10758 Reliability?? by jprinzo Jul 02, 2008 (10:27 am)
This is an addendum to drbrop's post. I am considering an 05 to 07 Outback, probably 4 cylinder, manual. I like the fact that it mixes ruggedness and economy in a sporty wagon. In doing research I've heard horrible things about Subies which undermine all common knowledge about Japanese cars. One friend purchased an '05 WRX new, took it home and the engine died. The engine was replaced under warranty. Next his tranny went at 45,000 miles. Two neighbors each own a 99-00 Forester and Legacy sedan. The Legacy sedan needed a tranny at 42,000 miles and the Forester at 25,000! I thought Subaru's were indestructible and on par with Toyota and Honda. Are these problems fixed in later models? Is the AWD tranny just too much for the car? Are Subie enthusiasts blindly supporting pieces of crap because they like the looks like VW fans do? I have an 88 LandCruiser which has had no problems at all and drove a Mazda Protege 5 for 4 years and put 85,000 miles on it without even having to replace the clutch. The stories are worse than American cars which I didn't think possible. You could buy an AMC Pacer or a Gremlin and not have the tranny go in 25k. BTW, these people baby their cars as well. Also, I've noticed tons of negative posts and huge problems with relatively low mileage Subies. This is unacceptable in the 21st century. They are obviously not assembled in Japan. If you look at Lexus, Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan etc boards, there are relatively few posts about problems under 150k. Any thoughts? Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 02, 2008 11:51 am) jeffmc (Jul 02, 2008 6:44 pm)
#10548 of 10758 Re: Reliability?? [jprinzo] by ateixeira Jul 02, 2008 (11:51 am)
Replying to: jprinzo (Jul 02, 2008 10:27 am) I don't think the problems you're mentioning are all that common, to be honest.   Subaru did in fact have a serious issue with head gaskets up until about the 2002 model year. Wheel bearings, too, on Forester and Impreza.   Look at CR data, though, and you'll see they've improved even in those areas and have always been above average. JD Power has them just above average IIRC, and Strategic Vision has handed out a few awards, FWIW.   I think the problem here is you're looking at a very small sample. A few cars don't really tell much of a story, you have to look at a large sample of thousands of cars to make any real conclusions that are statistically significant.   Here's another source, truedelta.com. I like them because they actually verify the VIN for each car and you have to not only register but also remain in touch with them by providing quarterly updates. CR and JDP surveys only measure how a consumer feels on one particular day. Link:   http://www.truedelta.com/latest_results.php?session_code=   The Forester and Impreza are made in Japan, FWIW.   We had great luck with a 98 Forester and an 02 Legacy. Dad has an Outback, sis has a Forester, and my brother has an 03 Legacy sedan. None of us have had any major repairs. Still a small sample that doesn't mean much, however.   We just bought our 3rd Subaru, a 2009 Forester, so far it's defect-free.
#10549 of 10758 Re: Reliability?? [jprinzo] by jeffmc Jul 02, 2008 (6:44 pm)
Replying to: jprinzo (Jul 02, 2008 10:27 am) Fortunately all those problems sound like they happened under warranty!   No problems with our '06 Legacy or '06 Outback (or previous '04 Outback, for that matter). If you're searching for '05-07, I'd start with '06. They made some safety changes to earn 5 star side impact and get top scores all around. I've also heard of the occasional electrical glitch with '05s. '05 was the first model year of the current body style and was a HUGE leap over the previous generation. Any little nitpicky issues were pretty much ironed out by '06.   '06 also added some nice features vs. '05: power gains to 175 hp and 169 lb/ft torque i-Active Valve Lift system standard engine immobilizer w/electronic key (insurance co. should like that!) standard 17" alloys standard air filtration new overhead passenger airbag on/off, seatbelt warning light new dashboard illumination and daybright on/off control combined
#10551 of 10758 Outback w/ a Baby Seat by icdavi Jul 05, 2008 (7:53 pm)
I went to check out the '09 OB today and found out that not much has changed. New sound system and they dropped the LL Bean. A big negative for me is the backseat. The '09 Forester is roomier and i was hoping they would do the same to the OB. My question is, will a rear facing baby car seat fit in the middle of the rear seat? We own the Graco Boulevard and it is quite large ... takes up most of the rear in our Prius. I know Subaru doesn't recommend the middle seat, but I prefer it because it is much safer. Replies to this message: krzyss (Jul 07, 2008 5:02 am)
#10552 of 10758 Re: Outback w/ a Baby Seat [icdavi] by krzyss Jul 07, 2008 (5:02 am)
Replying to: icdavi (Jul 05, 2008 7:53 pm) You need to take the seat and try it at the dealer.   Krzys
#10553 of 10758 subaru problems by cptplt Jul 07, 2008 (9:53 am)
92 Legacy L sedan, 100K miles, no engine/drivetrain problems except sensors when it was 10 yrs old 92 Legacy LS wagon 90K miles, no engine/powertrain problems 98 Legacy LS wagon 130K, no engine/powertrain /problems (did have oil leak and need a new a.c though at 60K but had ext warranty) 02 WRX wagon 40K, no engine/powertrain problems yet 06 Tribeca 36K, no engine/powertrain problems yet 08 Outback 12K, no problems except annoying exhaust rattle they've tried fix twice already   06 Sienna 45K needed a new tranny! (as good/bad as my 95 and 00 Windstar which both needed new trannies at about 40K which was why we got a Toyota this time, our Chevy Venture went 140K with no tranny problems!- I guess thats why GM sell trannies to BMW!!))   its all in the luck of the draw but Subaru engine/powertrain problems with significant failures are rare in my experience Replies to this message: ateixeira (Jul 07, 2008 9:59 am)

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