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Suzuki Verona, Sedan
#858 of 1859 I'm Back
Aug 19, 2004 (5:35 pm)
It's good to see things haven't changed much since I was last here. Everybody taking swipes at the Verona. All this talk about computer chips and much of it based on hearsay from third parties related by those claiming to have exchanged their Verona using the Lemon Law in their state for another Verona. I see others in the group found all this to be somewhat suspect. In this day of 24 hour news channels with a "news beast" that has to be fed it amazes me how a news worthy story such as this goes unnoticed. All I have to say is if any product failed to the point of a manufacturer offering me another new item or a cash refund in full I would have grabbed the money and run being all the wiser. Enough of this, I find the whole matter silly.
Now about my experience. I bought my Verona in late December 2004. I bought the $19,999.00 Verona Ex for $16.998.00. My purchase included free oil changes for the year. I have had NO warranty work whatsoever. I haven't needed it. The Verona EX has nearly 15,000 miles on it. I get a consistent 25+ MPG. My last tank I went 400 miles of daily driving to and from work, in August and got 26.64 MPG. It is one of the quietest cars I've had the pleasure to have driven. During the last rain storm while driving on the highway I found myself wishing I didn't have a sun roof because it was the only place I could hear the rain. There is just no water splash noise coming from the wheel wells front or back. A co-worker and I were discussing the Ford hybrid SUV the other day and she commented that it is said you can't even hear it when you are at a stop and I had to tell her I have the same experience when I have my Verona running and come to a stop. There is just silence and no vibration.
I had the oil changed last Friday. My dealer is the 8th highest in sales of Veronas in the nation. There were no other Veronas in the service area and no other disgruntled Verona owners discussing Suzuki making their monthly payments. Just daytime tv in the waiting room and a hint of motor oil in the air.
It has become apparent the market is very crowded in the four door sedan market sector. The Korean Manufacturers have caused the same reaction the Japanese did in the late 60s and early 70s. The high quality products from Hyundai, Kia and Suzuki/GMDAT at an ultra competitive price is pushing the established US, European and Japanese manufacturers to take a closer look at the marketplace and their place in it. There is increasing pressure to hold onto market penetration. And some of the familiar names are loosing ground.
This is enough for now. I'll be back in a week or perhaps a few months to give you another piece of my mind.
Aug 19, 2004 (6:46 pm)
"The high quality products from Hyundai, Kia and Suzuki/GMDAT"
Actually, the only reports in support of Korean quality are concerning Hyundai, and subsequent to the acquisition, Hyundai-based Kias. If you can find a report documenting the significant improvement in any GM/Daewuki product, by all means post a link.
"This is enough for now. I'll be back in a week or perhaps a few months to give you another piece of my mind."
Great. Thats about as much as we all can handle. But it is great to see someone post with such an unbiased opinion of his vehicle, lol.
#860 of 1859 Comment from Tekrek...
Aug 20, 2004 (5:38 am)
Firstly, I am not nitpicking..but I think you bought the car in Dec 2003.Thats the same time I got my car too. I have only 3500 miles on and the car runs great. Its good to know the good reports from you.That gives us Verona owners a peace of mind. However some owners have had an engine check light problem. The problem appears to be in some of the cars that have to be reprogrammed for a software issue in the ECM.As far as alphas comment the company is not GM Dawuki but GMDAT or simply Suzuki. Also it would be important to know that Hyundai has been around for many years. The initial cars from Hyundai/Kia were no where the class and quality of the Verona.
#861 of 1859 Re: I'm Back [tekrek]
Aug 20, 2004 (6:30 am)
"Enough of this, I find the whole matter silly."
Not sure why posting our problems is "silly" but to each his/her own. Your not having any problems with your Verona is good news for you. I hope you continue to enjoy your car. And I hope I continue to enjoy my 2nd Verona since I got the "reflash".
However, I know of 6 (including myself) Verona owners in my town alone who have had problems. And b/c you haven't had problems you can't say we are just making them up or that we are being silly. What would be the purpose of that? Believe it or not, I don't have a secret grudge against anyone at Suzuki for which I would come out here to post negative things about their cars.
And why hasn't Suzuki made this problem known...well you will just have to ask them. Trust me, they are not eager and willing to admit they built a defective car.
So if and when you post your next opinion, you will probably still be defensive, which is fine but it doesn't change my experience or anybody elses, silly or otherwise.
And finally, yes I filed a lemon law claim and yes I took another Verona b/c I wanted one. So if that makes me crazy so be it. If that is not what you would have done, okay. We all have to do what we have to do. And for the record, my lawyer informed me that going for the cash takes a lot longer than a transfer. So don't think just asking for the cash is going to be that easy.
#862 of 1859 The Reflash of the Computer
Aug 23, 2004 (3:28 pm)
has stopped the rough idle and fluctuation of the RPM in my Verona. I can't tell if it runs different after warm up and on the road yet as I haven't driven it that much. I had the oil changed at the same time they had the car and that brings up another point. The owners manual says 6.8 qts of oil and the service writer says they put 8. something qts of oil in the car. I asked about the difference. The Suzuki rep that was there was no help as he stated "when the oil is replaced be sure the automatic filler gun is set on ZERO or fill it to the full mark on the dip stick counting how many qts are needed to reach that mark. I will change it myself next time and will track how many qts it will take. I looked through the paper work for the previous oil changes by the dealer and it states 5 qts of
oil. I think the service department of the dealers (mine is a Chrysler dealer also) do not pay attention to the specifications of the different automobiles they sell. I know the Verona was new for 2004, but they should have all the service items worked out by now. I purchased my Verona in Oct 03. Oh well, I will keep asking questions about the car and maybe I will get the right answers and I still enjoy driving the Verona.
Aug 24, 2004 (4:33 pm)
On the web i read today that a recall of 2004 veronas has been sent by suzuki for reprogram of the ecm. It said that a incorrect fuel/air mixture was being sent during deceleration and could cause a stall and/or a crash. I bought my Verona on July 30 and it has been chugging on deceleration and running a little rough at start up. I called suzuki to find out when my recall would be sent out but they were already closed. Left them a message to call me back. Love the car!!! Will be glad when ecm is reprogrammed.
#864 of 1859 Re: recall for ecm [ccbloome61]
Aug 25, 2004 (10:18 am)
I am glad to hear there will be a recall. At least Suzuki is going to do the right thing by their Verona owners.
Aug 25, 2004 (1:35 pm)
Yes the Suzuki rep. called me and said the recall notices would go out appx. the 2nd week of next month. She was suprised I already knew of the recall. The wonder of the Web.
#866 of 1859 2005 Suzuki Verona Changes
Aug 25, 2004 (5:39 pm)
I recently received an e-mail from a representative at Suzuki. Enclosed was a word document of the 2005 lineup.
Verona: Big on Style
A European-designed midsize sedan with the following standard equipment: A 2.5-Liter, 24-valve DOHC in-line six-cylinder engine (vs. the competitionsí four-cylinder engines); fully adaptive automatic transmission with step-gate shifter; air conditioning with micron air-filtration system; power windows and door locks; keyless entry; cruise control; in-dash AM/FM CD/cassette player with six speakers; four-wheel disc brakes; speed-sensitive power steering; and fog lights.
Available features include: Leather seating surfaces; power tilt-and-slide sunroof; automatic climate control; four-wheel ABS with traction control; 16-inch aluminum alloy wheels; eight-way power driverís seat and heated seating surfaces.
 2005 Verona trim levels:
 S: Well-equipped, five-passenger sedan, with air conditioning, a six speaker CD/cassette audio system, and power windows and locks;
 LX: Better-equipped five-passenger sedan with power tilt-and-slide sunroof and 16-inch alloy wheels;
 EX: Feature-rich five-passenger sedan. Automatic transmission and leather package are standard; traction control is an option.
 Changes on all Verona trim levels:
 Introduction of advanced airbag for front passenger
 Side airbags standard on all models
 Tool case in trunk compartment
 New tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS)
 Iridium spark plugs
 Upgraded emission level to ULEV II
 New exterior color: Champagne Beige Metallic
 Additional changes on Verona LX:
 Power tilt-and-slide sunroof standard
*Questions marks don't mean anything.
#867 of 1859 Ref: Recall of the ECM
Aug 25, 2004 (5:50 pm)
I think that is what has been tqlked here as the "Reflash of the Computer" or "Reboot of the Computer." It will be the "KE" campaign. That is what the Suzuki rep did to my Verona EX last week.