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#51 of 1822 good reviews by aveman Sep 26, 2003 (6:12 pm)
tThe review at autoweek was positive as well.I expect that the Verona may do well for suzuki. I just feel teased that the new cars arriving on the midsize scene,seem so well built and would be great drives if a manual trans were availible.Especiallly, since Hundai/Kia offer a manual transmission in their midsize Sonata/Optima.If the cars didn't seem so nice,I would not care so much that a manual shift is not available.I guess as is the case with the new Malibu, having folks drive around shifting gears would too much fun ta allow in this size car for the money.You have to go down in size and sophistication, or up in price.I just figured it out,it's me not them. I forgot ths is the age of the cell phone. Who has time to be shifting gears when you can be talking your mouth off.
#52 of 1822 aveman... by jchan2 Sep 27, 2003 (11:35 am)
Or, who has time to shift when their kid needs to rush to Soccer?
#53 of 1822 by regfootball Sep 27, 2003 (6:59 pm)
I checked out the new Verona today.   Quite nice! Interior plastics and leather are good. Style inside and out very nice for under 20g.   This thing is a definite Sonata/Optima killer. Also compares very well at much less $$$$ to Camcords and domestics.   Also, a right size car.   All they missed was getting the hp up. 155 not enough. fix this Suzuki.   Host, perhaps this topic ought to be moved over to the Sedans boards?
#54 of 1822 Lets talk HP vs price then. by dkuhajda Sep 28, 2003 (10:16 am)
I drove several sedans yesterday again. By far the Toyota, Nissan, and Mazda V6 are more powerful engines than the I6 in the Verona, BUT to get a similar equipped car you have to pay between $6000 and $11000 MORE. To compare closest priced vehicles to the $20.5K Verona, we have the V6 Sonata $21,459, I4 Altima $26,171, I4 Camry $25,310, I4 Accord $24,800. NONE of the 4 cylinder engines came close to the smooth transfer of power to the wheels and were much slower off the line to the I6 in the Verona.   Here is the short list of what I test drove just yesterday: 1. Verona $20.5K , I6 155HP at 5600RPM with 171FtLbs Torque at 4000rpm. 2. Accord EX Leather $24,800 (no sunroof), I4 160HP at 5500rpm with 161 FtLbs torque at 4500RPM. 3. Camry 2.4L Top of the line with the I4, $25,310, 157HP at 5600RPM with 162 FtLbs Torque at 4000RPM.   By far the quietist and smoothest car was the Verona. Interior materials and fit and finish were comparable between all three. The extreme smoothness of the power in the Verona made it seem like it was less powerful, but actual acceleration times were better. It simply did not have much engine noise or vibration at all under hard acceleration. Upon initial impression due to the noise of the 4 cylinder in the Accord it seemed like it had more power, but in reality the Verona was much quicker off the line in normal driving.   The Verona is priced like a 4 Cylinder comparable car, but has better low end power like a 6 cylinder engine. If the only gripe is the lack of passing power when compared with more expensive V6 engines, no big deal. Try getting the same passing power out of one of the similarily priced I4 engines.   I think the car hits the mark on filling in a GAP left by all the other manufactures, a very smooth, quiet, and easy to drive sedan. The closest comparison in quiet ride is something like the Buick LeSabre, with handling close to the Mercury Sable. Just an all around smooth quiet sedan for $20.5K and under.
#55 of 1822 dkuhajda by corvette Sep 28, 2003 (10:21 am)
Did the Verona you test drove have an EPA MPG rating on the sticker?
#56 of 1822 by rcf8000 Sep 28, 2003 (11:50 am)
The Verona is an attractive alternative to 4 cylinder Camrys and Accords, no question about that. The main strikes against it would be gas mileage (20city/28hwy), lack of side air bags, and unknown reliability and depreciation.
#57 of 1822 20/28 city/hwy by dkuhajda Sep 28, 2003 (4:00 pm)
Seems to be comparable to fuel economy on other 6 cylinders for city and highway. Does not require premium or high octane fuel at all, standard 87 octane is all it needs.   As to depreciation, if you are already starting out $4,000 ahead and keep the car 7 years and 100K miles, you are probably still going to be ahead versus the more expensive cars that only have a 3/36 warranty, odds are pretty good you will have one $500 out of warranty repair, or you will have the timing belt cost on many of the 4 bangers.   Side Air-bags? I did not see many of the other brand cars on the lots with them installed. Seems not to be a very popular option yet. Possibly they will become standard (on all models) over the next couple of years, if people are willing to pay the cost. We will see how the different crash test ratings come out. I do know that since this vehicle gets sold in Korea that it has to meet certain vehicle-pedestrian crash worthiness, which means the very front end has pedestrian absorption zones to minimize the injury to a pedestrian in a low speed impact. Honda has a big research center in Japan for the same problem as Japan has a lot of low speed vehicle versus pedestrian accidents.
#58 of 1822 Side airbags by corvette Sep 28, 2003 (5:13 pm)
The lack of side airbags with head protection and unknown reliability are the biggest downsides I see here. 2004 Accord I4 doesn't have a timing belt.
#59 of 1822 side airbags by aveman Sep 30, 2003 (7:18 am)
Yes launchung a car for 2004 without side airbags is not good.Since the report came out that side airbags make a big difference in degree of injury, the demand for side airbags should increase.I do believe it is rare to find some cars on lots with side airbags. This may give the domestics like Malibu an edge, in that you can order them. Hopefully, the Verona was designed with side airbags in mind and they can add that feature.
#60 of 1822 Does anyone know the invoice cost on a Verona EX? by evergreen Sep 30, 2003 (6:44 pm)
I have checked a few websites and none list the invoice. A local dealer told me he would sell me one at invoice, or $18,999 which includes $500 transportation. So, I can save $1000 off MSRP and buy at invoice. I think it is a bunch of BS, though, because invoice should be around $2000 below MSRP on a $20k vehicle.

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