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Re: MY NEW 05 [04koreanvin]
by marvinlee1
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Nov 03, 2009 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: 04koreanvin (Oct 31, 2009 9:39 pm)
Be cautious in believing the individual claiming that "Suzuki is telling them to drop oil pan and pull valve cover to inspect for sludge any traces void warranty and charge us for all service rendered and to come."
Ask to see the email and, if necessary send your own email to Suzuki USA asking for clarification. I would be surprised to find any any after a few thousand miles with zero trace of sludge. Sludge can build up easily under some conditions of short-trip driving, and especially in cold weather months. You may recall that Toyota had a major sludge problem with some of its Camry engines just a few years ago. After initially trying to blame owners, it conceded that the engine design might be a contributing factor and later announced that it had made engine modifications. The Verona may be more prone than most engines to sludge because it has an abnormally larger oil capacity relative to the engine displacement. Larger oil capacity require more time to warm up, thus increasing the percentage of operating time during which the oil is below normal operating temperatures.
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Re: MY NEW 05 [evergreen]
by mickeysgal
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Nov 05, 2009 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: evergreen (Jun 11, 2009 3:56 pm)
Evergreen, I haven't been on this in a long time. I don't know a lot of the terminology of the mechanics however I believe that my cylinders are misfiring. We took it to the dealer and this is what they have told me. If we have them do the work the repair bill is $8500.00. It isn't covered under warantee anymore because I was driving far for work and racked up the miles. And the DM (district manager) in our area saw the mileage and wasn't willin gto help. So my car sits in the driveway dead. I was hoping that I could find more people that have had these issues. I know that it is a problem with the engine, however I don't know how to prove it.
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Re: MY NEW 05 [mickeysgal]
by evergreen
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Nov 05, 2009 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: mickeysgal (Nov 05, 2009 9:58 am)
Mickeysgal....I think that Suziki isn't going to bend over backwards to help fix a problem if the car is out of waranty. A good lawyer might be able to get them to provide a little help but, because these cars just aren't worth very much any more, the lawyer might be more expensive than the repair work. I hope the $8500 quote you received was for a whole new engine. I was rear ended a few months ago and the other driver's insurance company told me if they decided to total the car, they would give me $7600 and then sell it back to me, If I wanted it, for $800. I thought that was a very fair deal for an 04 Verona. Unfortunately, they decided to fix it. They even took care of some dings on the side that were there before the accident. With my latest motor, which only has 20k miles on it, and the back end looking like new, I am a happy camper. I have one more year on the warranty and will probably have to make a decision then whether or not to keep it or sell it. If I were in your shoes, though, I don't think I would spend $8500 to get a new motor. Some folks have had transmission problems as well as motor problems so it could start getting expensive to keep it running correctly.
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Re: MY NEW 05 [evergreen]
by mickeysgal
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Nov 07, 2009 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: evergreen (Nov 05, 2009 6:31 pm)
Eevergreen....I don't think that I expect them to bend over backwards. I was actually hoping at the time that they would just cover a portion of it. The $8500 was to replace the cylinders. I am not a person that expects to get stuff for free. The more that I read on the posts the more and more I read that the engine has trouble. These cars aren't worth shit. I like the way it looks and the features that are on the car. I also think that an engine should last more then 103,000 miles. And yes I did take care of my car doing proper oil changes and tune ups, etc. I am just at a loss.
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- #1819 of 1822
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Re: MY NEW 05 [mickeysgal]
by evergreen
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Nov 08, 2009 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: mickeysgal (Nov 07, 2009 5:58 pm)
mickeysgal......I guess what I was trying to say was that a whole new motor costs less than $8500. Maybe it would be worth it if you planned to drive the car another 100,000 miles. Chances are your transmission would need to be replaced before then so you might be better off getting a different car.
Also, the cylinders are not something you replace. Cylinders are just holes in the block that provide a space for the pistons to travel. In a major overhaul, those holes would be re-bored and you would need a lot of other new parts to make it all run again. So the question you need to ask yourself is whether it is better to spend $8500 to get the motor overhauled or something less to get an entirely new engine. A new engine should last longer than an overhauled engine, too.
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Re: MY NEW 05 [evergreen]
by mickeysgal
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Nov 08, 2009 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: evergreen (Nov 08, 2009 10:07 am)
Evergreen, funny thing is that I wouldn't trust that car no matter what was done to it. Like I said before, I expect an engine to last longer then it did. You do the scheduled maintenance on the vehicle, why? What for? And it isn't like that car is cheap to maintain. Sorry I don't mean to seem bitter, but this car is a sore subject. I would love to put it in the middle of a corn field and blow it up. Just for kicks! But I would be the one to get arrested since it isn't my field.
The part that really got me is the customer sevice center in california and the dealer had two different stories as to why my car was being rejected and they wouldn't help us.
We have recently found a used engine (see I asked about a new engine that was $10,500) to put in the vehilce for a hell of a lot less money then that. We are thinking about doing that and selling it. But how do I not feel guilty of selling the piece of shit? I don't know. It is kind of a catch 22.
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Re: Suzuki Verona
by welington
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Nov 15, 2009 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: 2124dolphin (Apr 23, 2009 3:52 pm)
my 2004 suzuki verona have 93,0000 mils, and i want to change the oil whats oil is the best for this milleage 10w-30 , 10w-40 , 5w-30 or 20-50 .?.
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Re: Suzuki Verona [welington]
by evergreen
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Nov 15, 2009 (9:38 pm)
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Replying to: welington (Nov 15, 2009 4:55 pm)
93,000 miles and time to change the oil. You would think a car could go at least 100,000 miles before changing the oil. I would suggest the 5w-30. I think that is what Suzuki put in it when they built it and I don't think that engine likes other weights.
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