- #1767 of 1822
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Re: Verona engine [larsguest]
by 650spx
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Sep 16, 2008 (6:38 pm)
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Replying to: larsguest (Sep 15, 2008 6:22 am)
Two huge problems with this engine 1 the pcv valve breaks apart inside and 2 the injectors spray aginst the cylinder head not in to the intake port. GM will not allow suzuki to repair the car so suzuki just stoped selling them 2 years early there are huge law suits about this between the two so who knows. The way things look right now suzuki could buy out GM by the end of the year if thay wanted to.
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- #1768 of 1822
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Re: If you only knew [650spx]
by mickeysgal
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Sep 17, 2008 (8:27 pm)
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Replying to: 650spx (Sep 16, 2008 6:25 pm)
Ok so heres the deal. We bought this car because we liked it. We thought that this would be a good "family" vehicle. Boy were we wrong. Just because I didn't have my car serviced at the dealer didn't mean that I didn't do scheduled maintenance on the car. Also just because I didn't do maintenance at a dealer doesn't mean that Suzuki shouldn't stand behind their product. I don't expect anyone to jump through hoops for me and I sure as hell am not looking for a free ride. I have a HUGE problem when companies try to sweep exsisting problems under the rug. A car repair should NEVER be more then the car is worth!
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- #1769 of 1822
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to evergeen from welington
by welington
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Sep 18, 2008 (11:37 am)
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thank you evergeen now i would change to regular gas,permiun is to much money take care and good luck
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- #1770 of 1822
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Re: If you only knew [mickeysgal]
by 650spx
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Sep 18, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: mickeysgal (Sep 17, 2008 8:27 pm)
I agree with you and trust me there are several veronas with 50 thousand dollars worth of warranty work done to them on the road. I also believe suzuki dose stand by there product and in you case they did for 100,000 miles. You also correct you can do all your work at whatever shop you want and thats perfectly fine. But when you want warranty assistance from a dealer or manufacture they always seem more fourth coming if you have spent all those service dollars at a dealer buying suzuki parts and paying suzuki dealer techs. It is all about business if you bought a 30 thousand dollar car from the sales department and spent zero dollars at the service department (in the 104,000 mile period you won't get much help. But if you spent 30 thousand dollars at sales and will say 6 to 8 thousand dollars having the normal and additional services done in that same millage period. That will get some attention from the right people. I am sure the shop you normally go to if you are a good customer would give you a good deal on engine replacement because your a good customer but if I walked in there it would be a whole different store. I am not saying it's right but that is just the way it is.
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- #1771 of 1822
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nocking engine noise
by welington
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Sep 20, 2008 (6:45 pm)
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hi emeka1 i think is no solution in this problem,the mecanic told me that the engine is fine, but in my conclucion i think that nocking noise when the car is cold is because the motor oil take to long to go up and lubricated the whole engine, remember when the engine is cold all the oil is on the botton part and have to go up and lubricated the engine, thats why the nocking noise go away after 3 minuted after the engine is warm and lubricated by the oil.another point after the engine is warm and you drive, you turn the car off and turned back on is no nocking noise is only when is cold. well in my solution when i star my verona in the mourning i turn the radio on, so i dont have to heard that nocking noise from the engine, take care and good luck.
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- #1772 of 1822
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Re: nocking engine noise [welington]
by marvinlee1
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Sep 21, 2008 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: welington (Sep 20, 2008 6:45 pm)
The engine noise may be related to the pistons. Modern pistons are quite short, have no steel inserts to control expansion, and sometimes cause a bit of noise until they reach operating temperature. I would pay attention to the trend of the noise. Is it deteriorating? If so, pistons are probably not the cause since they normally wear very slowly.
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- #1773 of 1822
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Re: Verona engine [larsguest]
by chuck1
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Sep 28, 2008 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: larsguest (Sep 15, 2008 6:22 am)
Interesting article. But this engine has been a real piece of garbage. You can't help to think if they would have stayed with a GM design they would have been much better cars!
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- #1774 of 1822
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Re: Verona engine [chuck1]
by 650spx
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Sep 29, 2008 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: chuck1 (Sep 28, 2008 9:19 pm)
The verona engine is a complety GM design. Gm declined to fix the engine half way through the contract with suzuki. Suzuki revisted the engine repair a year after taking on the line and gave Gm most of the information to preform the corrective action needed. GM would not repair the vechile. Rember suzuki buys the verona reno and forenza. Built and ready to go from GM all suzuki dose is sell them and fix them Thay have no other input. Which is why the verona is gone and forenza and reno are out next year. The only mistake suzuki made was trusting GM a company thay have done business with for along time. GM may be gone soon
(god I hope so) I know it will hurt the work force and ecnomey of mexico ,china and every other cheap labor country out there but only about 5 real americans will loose there jobs.
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- #1775 of 1822
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Re: Verona engine [650spx]
by marvinlee1
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Sep 29, 2008 (5:43 pm)
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Replying to: 650spx (Sep 29, 2008 2:59 pm)
"The verona engine is a complety GM design." Do you have a reference for that claim, 650spx? My understanding, based on literature supplied at the time the car was being released in America, is that Daewoo was responsible for engine design, beginning before GM bought a controlling share of Daewoo. Daewoo, according to my understanding, had hired the aid of an engine expert at Germany's Porsche company.
The Daewoo sedan is still in production and is sold in several nations. It now has a six speed transmission and has a diesel option newly available. I agree that Suzuki had legitimate complaints.
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- #1776 of 1822
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verona engine the real tru
by welington
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Sep 30, 2008 (4:48 am)
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i think the verona engine is 100% daewoo because in korea they star making the daewwo magnus which is suzuki verona in usa in the year 2000. the reason is that i was checking a korean uses auto sales webside and i look a used daewoo magnus from the year 2000 to 2006. another reason is that was the first 6 cilynder engine from daewoo so maybe daewoo company are no good making 6 cilybder engine, remember verona owners when daewwo first came to usa whit the leganza,nubira and lanos they all 4 cilynder engine and before daewoo when bankrut the daewwo magnus was already made by daewwo co. and in 2004 daewwo when bankrut and was brough by gm and suzuki. now every daewwo extricate as a chevrolet like for example the chevy aveo thats a daewoo whith chevy frame in korea the chevy aveo name is daewoo gentra.now suzuki dont want daewoo anymore and they kicking out all the daewoo cars like the verona, forenza and reno, i was checking the suzuki new cars web and forenza and reno are not there anymore. oh another point suzuki is going to try to bring back the costumers attention with the suzuki kizashi in 2010, lets se what happen because the kizashi is made by suzuki not daewoo. thanks verona owners and good luck
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