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1822 messages, Last post on Nov 15, 2009 at 9:38 PM
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I just installed a new set of Centric Posi Quiet Disk Pads all-around, and just for the heck of it, disconnected / re-connected the 2 abs electrical connectors on both front axles. I drove about 20 miles today, threw in a few "hard stops" just for good measure, and the abs light has NOT re-appeared.  My theory is either one of the following: the worn brake pads triggered a signal to the abs computer that would disable abs from operating, OR, the act of re-inserting connectors which may not have been making proper electrical contact did the trick. In any event, I am wondering how many others here did not have "legitimate" problems with their abs system? I would not doubt that most repairs shops would capitalize on the "out of warranty" situation, citing major repairs e.g. computer, sensors, etc. to the tune of $1500 (as some have paid) when all that was needed was some simple connector cleaning. From my observation, these connections are exposed to all the elements: road salts, grime, brake dust, extreme temperatures, vibration, shock, etc. hence highly likely that a poor connection can develop. OH, and did I mention my brake pads (esp. the inner pads, the ones you can't see too well until you remove the caliper) were worn down pretty deep. Just wondering if abs is, coincidentally, disabled on really worn pads. Just wondering if anyone had a similar experience? Thanks.
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Replying to: mm9351 (Mar 30, 2008 12:43 pm) While, Im at it. My verona drives me just over 5000 miles a month. the hub assy is the first major repair i have needed. The engine (original) is still very quiet, and it has been a great car overall. I am definatly getting my money's-worth out of it. |
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Replying to: mm9351 (Mar 29, 2008 5:38 pm)
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Replying to: nace818 (Apr 01, 2008 12:01 pm)
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Replying to: mm9351 (Apr 03, 2008 4:03 pm)
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Replying to: nace818 (Apr 05, 2008 5:37 am) |
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I can tell you mine have been replaced 6 times in a 5 month period when the car was still under warranty they finally changed the catalytic converter and that has fixed the problem so far with the engine light coming on...
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Replying to: poulsbokid (Apr 08, 2008 2:52 pm) |
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I don't believe everyone is saying Suzuki produces nothing but junk. But when it comes to the 2004 Verona they completely got it wrong. Are any of you other Verona owners aware of the fact that Suzuki did not design or build the first Vehicle that carries the name Verona. Suzuki purchased Daewoo from GM and the Verona was a model designed by Daewoo, I'm not sure but I think it was called the Leganza when Daewoo built it. I have read that the engine in the Verona which was designed by Daewoo was not engineered to run on a fuel that contains ethanol. Well as you all know or should, you can not buy fuel in America that does not have at least 10% ethanol. Running this engine on a fuel that contains ethanol causes extreme build-up, I read that is ten to fifteen times worse than a normal engine. I bought a 2004 Verona in 2007 it only had 37,000 miles on it. The car run fine and sounded fine for the first few days. Then it started making noise in the top end of the engine and then in another couple of days the lower end of the engine started making noise. I have worked on car engines sense I was eleven years old and I can tell you what is making most engine noises. I knew that what the Service Manager and the Service Rep that came out were telling me was a lie. I was told that this engine was suppose to make that noise and that there was nothing wrong with the engine. I was told this engine has what they call self adjusting cam gears and the ticking noise I was hearing coming from the top of the motor is suppose to quit after about ten seconds. The only thing is, is it wasn't quitting and they all swore they could not hear the rod bearing knocking in the lower end of the engine. Finally after six or seven months I got them to agree to replace all the working parts in the top of the engine and they said they replaced the short block, which as I understand is the outer casing of the lower end of the engine and the crank, pistons, rods, rod bearings, and rod caps. I think Suzuki trains there techs to be liars because even though I was told that this work was done the engine still makes the same noise it made before I took it in to have them work on it. The ticking and clattering up top and the rod bearing is still knocking. So I ask anyone that might read this, is it possible to replace all the parts that Suzuki claims to have replaced and an engine still make all the noise it made before repair. I personally say no to this and I have had plenty of experience rebuilding engines to know that a gasoline engine would never be designed to make the noise that a diesel engine makes. A gasoline engine is designed to run as tight as possible. I have had the vehicle in now seven times, the last time just being a couple of weeks ago and they could not hear the engine making noise and they could not feel the transmission lurching and slipping, and I took it to another dealership to see if they would be honest. Guess what, they are as bad of liars as the other people in the other service department. It seems to me that Suzuki is aware of the problems that are there when it comes to the Verona and they wish to ignore them and to make people go through hell getting something done about getting the proper repairs done to fix their vehicles. They have demonstrated a lack of concern that the engine has been the cause of accidents and that peoples lives are at risk every time they climb behind the wheel of their vehicles. So I ask whoever reads this if you are as upset with Suzuki as I am and are tired putting up with their lies and crap then would you be willing to join me in a class action against Suzuki. I have already alerted the Attorney General in California ( where Suzuki has its corporate Office ) and I have alerted The Attorney General here in my home state, Texas. I have filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau in California also and I have contacted channel 8's investigative team and I have contacted a columnist called the Watchdog for the Star Telegram here in Ft Worth. I really cant afford to hire an Attorney to handle this matter so I am doing what I can to force Suzuki to either buy back all 2004 Verona's or to be willing to replace the engines and transmissions in the ones owned by unhappy customers. Wont you please join me in this battle and maybe we can win the war. Contact me by e-mail at looneyfrtwrth att.net.
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Hey, that was a great post by rainman. I must admit, I never experienced the engine noise on mine. The transverse inline 6 cylinder was a great design and in my opinion, well executed. The engine has roots from Porsche, as I have been told. Anyway, I was in a town called Verona New Jersey last week. They say the car is named after the town in Italy, written about by Shakespeare, you know, Two Gentlemen from Verona. Well, after 4 years of ownership, I must say this car is based more on NJ than Italy. Not that this is necessary bad, just that it reflects the "ordinary" nature of the car. While my 04 EX has served me well for 4 years, it is now time to depart our ways. With the 3 yr 36K warranty well expired, I have my doubts if this is the car I want to continue to have as my sole source of conveyance. For those of you who have ready my posts, I thank you for your time. I have steadfastly defended the car against the long list of gripes and harsh complaints. Mind you, I still like the car, and will miss it. But here are the factors / annoyances that led up to my decision. Problems never quite resolved: turn signals do not cancel after turning; the steering wheel audio controls that never get it right; volume up acts as mute; seek acts like mode; mode turns the darn thing off, etc. The abs warning lite which has again re-appeared. And while I was perfectly willing to live with this, last week for some strange reason at a long red light, the engine decided to stall. And despite the long line of honking horns, it took about 2 minutes to re-start. Problem has not returned, but when will it happen next? On the freeway? All of these concerns, but most importantly, living without a warranty (other than the 7-70K powertrain) led me to the painful decision that it's time to move on. I guess you might say that my confidence in this vehicle, wearing thin as time went on, has dropped to an unacceptable level. Thanks to all, and I wish you all the best with your Veronas. |
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