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Kia Spectra, Kia, Sedan, Wagon
#273 of 431 orangelebaron
May 11, 2004 (12:48 pm)
On the Elantra's crash tests, we were both wrong. Both the 2001 and 2004 models got two five-star ratings and two four-star ratings; that is why I said they had the same ratings. But I didn't look carefully enough. The 2001 car got four stars on the driver's side and five stars on the passenger side. The 2004 got five stars on the driver's side but four stars on the passenger side. I think that's curious since there were no obvious deign changes on the passenger side to account for it.
As for the "8-way" adjustable seat, let's do some counting:
1. Seat slides fore and aft.
2. Seatback reclines.
3. Seat cushion height adjusts in a single arc, using a single control.
4. Lumbar support adjusts.
5. Headrest adjusts up and down.
I'm not sure how they get 8. In fact, I'm not sure how Hyundai gets 8 even though they have an additional adjustment (total of 6). Maybe they both count "fore and aft" or "up and down" separately?
I happened to check some of Kia's comparison data to other cars on the Spectra site, and based on the inaccuracies there (e.g. Elantra does not have an audio system standard, Mazda3s does not have power locks or mirrors standard) I don't know how much I can trust their other data.
#274 of 431 Price drop
May 25, 2004 (10:11 am)
There's a $2000 rebate and a $1000 "conquest" rebate on the new Spectra now. With negotiated discounts, one could pick up a Spectra EX for the low $10s + T&L!
#275 of 431 Re: Price drop [backy #274]
May 29, 2004 (3:22 am)
WOW. What happened? Not enough advertising? I haven't seen any new Spectra ads. Even if you don't negotiate, a loaded Spectra EX that stickers for around 16 grand (I looked at the options pricing list, wrote down every option, added it up on a calculator and arrived at approximately $16K) is just $13K! A Civic can't beat that!
May 29, 2004 (7:17 am)
Ok I got a chance to see this car in person finally. It was not at the dealership but I saw one in a parking lot. It had the optional 15" alloys. Overall it looked pretty nice. I'm guessing the wheels in the Edmunds first drive pictures are the steel wheels that come standard on LX and EX right? Those don't look half bad either. I peeked through the window to look at the interior. I was really surprised how higher quality it looks compared to pictures. I still don't like the empty holes where buttons would go but other than that it looks to have nice quality materials in it. This car is a great value and getting one between $10k to $12k with the 5/10 year warranty is amazing.
#277 of 431 Re: Price drop [jchan2 #275]
May 29, 2004 (8:58 am)
I don't think it's lack of advertising; I've seen lots of Spectra ads lately. I think the main problem is that the new Spectra has a negative history to overcome. People don't know how good the new Spectra is yet. So until it builds up a positive reputation, Kia will need to draw buyers in with rebates, as they did with the old Spectra. The other thing working against Kia is that Hyundai offers big rebates on the Elantra, which is pretty comparable to the Spectra except for the side air curtains. So Kia will need to match those rebates. A good deal for buyers while it lasts.
May 29, 2004 (12:24 pm)
shouldn't they rename it Cerato then?
May 29, 2004 (4:05 pm)
Are you sure theres a $2000 rebate? Kia's website, autosite.com, and carsdirect.com all show a $1000 base rebate. On top of that, some customers may be eligible for the $1000 conquest rebate.
But whered the $2000 base rebate come from?
May 30, 2004 (5:00 am)
What is a Conquest rebate?
#281 of 431 Correct me if I'm wrong,
May 30, 2004 (6:05 am)
but I'm guessing that a conquest rebate would be when the dealer can sell a Kia to you and it's the first Kia you've ever bought, or the last car you bought was not a Kia. Kinda gimmicky but go with it because it saves you $1000! I wouldn't hesitate buying one of these new Spectra's a bit-but you all know how I feel about Kia, too! Absolutely great deal on a small car IMO!
#282 of 431 the conquest rebate
May 30, 2004 (6:51 am)
Is a bit more specified than you mention, iluvmysephia. If you go on Kia's website, theres a description of the program (its not called "conquest" but something similar). You have to own/lease one of the specified vehicles in your household to be eligible for the rebate. For example, if I wanted an All-New Spectra, I would be eligible, because I currently have a Nissan Sentra. But, if I wanted a Sedona, the Sentra ownership wouldnt qualify me- Id need to have a Quest or competiting minivan.
Hope that helps