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Re: Reliable DTS? Anybody have one? [bremertong]
by woofbite
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Jul 02, 2008 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: bremertong (Mar 26, 2008 10:00 pm)
Are you thinking of an MKS? I've been looking at the brochure and plan to drive one when local dealers have them. I really wanted a new STS or DTS but the 2008 DTS is apparently identical to my 2006 and 2009's will be too. STS's always feel so cramped because of their two-foot wide consoles which I hate.
Seems like, no matter how big or small the exterior of a car, the driver gets a 20 by 40 inch box in which to live.
Bring back the Hummer 1. (well maybe not, but they were roomy).
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FUEL ECONOMY AND MY 2006 DTS
by bremertong
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Jul 11, 2008 (8:43 pm)
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I own a 2006 DTS that now has a little over 8000 miles on it. It is my third Deville and gets the worst fuel economy of the three. The window sticker said 15 city and 23 highway at time of purchase. I am actually getting around 19 city and 26.5 highway. Problem is that my 2004 Deville got around 29 highway and 20.5 city. With gas prices headed much higher than they are now I think Cadillac Division needs to do more to address this problem of fuel economy in its cars. YES I can afford it but also feel that Cadillac should have been working on this fuel economy issue for the last several years. As you probably know the cost of fuel has been rising for several years and Cadillac has done nothing to address the issue. With shares of General Motors now trading at less than ten dollars a share and the same old tired chairmen spews out the same irrelevant statements time after time while the foreign competition developes and markets hybrids here and now. In the past Cadillac has been an innovator and it's time for the division to step up and innovate in the matter of fuel efficiency. I also own a 2005 Lincoln Town Car that gets better fuel efficiency both highway and city than my 2006 DTS, the T.C. also weighs 400 pounds more than the DTS.
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Re: FUEL ECONOMY AND MY 2006 DTS [bremertong]
by thegraduate
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Jul 15, 2008 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: bremertong (Jul 11, 2008 8:43 pm)
I also own a 2005 Lincoln Town Car that gets better fuel efficiency both highway and city than my 2006 DTS, the T.C. also weighs 400 pounds more than the DTS.
And the Town Car isn't as quick or powerful...part of the price you pay for better economy on these dated engine designs.
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- #794 of 854
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heated steering wheel problem '04 DTS
by caddyfreak
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Jul 16, 2008 (10:26 am)
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Only right side will heat up.
anyone taken the wheel apart to repair an element problem?
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Re: FUEL ECONOMY AND MY 2006 DTS [thegraduate]
by vic10
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Jul 16, 2008 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 15, 2008 9:24 am)
Realizing a lot of this is personal taste: I drove a TownCar for a week last year and found it overly soft and sloppy handling--the brakes were a disaster, too soft and not very supportive seats, and a very winded engine once you left the city streets for the highway. I've owned a '08 DTS performance for 3 months now and it still impresses me with its controlled ride (it has the magnetic struts), interior comfort, and great zip of the Northstar (and coming from a Hemi powered 300C, that's saying something). Totally different feeling cars, and that's reflected in their names: Town Car vs Deville Touring Sedan. I would feel much more secure on a twisty mountain road in the DTS. Alas, I do have to pay the gas bills and the performance gearing means higher revs on the highway and longer times in lower gears when accelerating. My commuting average is only 19 mpg (the Hemi would average 21). But it's worth it for the ride....
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Re: FUEL ECONOMY AND MY 2006 DTS [vic10]
by bremertong
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Jul 16, 2008 (9:16 pm)
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Replying to: vic10 (Jul 16, 2008 5:19 pm)
Thanks very much for sharing your experience with T.C. and DTS. I have owned my T.C. for two years and my DTS for about fourteen months. It would be hard to part with either car in that each has features I like. As mentioned in previous posts the DTS is more of a performance sedan and the TC feels more like a luxury car. I alternate the cars driving DTS one day and TC the next. I really like them both and look forward to getting the individual experience of the other. With fuel prices where they are I am becoming increasingly concerned about the energy crises. I was brought up on two important principles. The Titanic was unsinkable but as we all know did sink. And the idea (similar) that a small hole can sink a big ship. At the moment I have fairly deep pockets but also realize that if the price of fuel rises substantially I may have to revisit the issue of fuel costs and these two nice cars. I am disappointed that Cadillac has not even mentioned the idea of a Hybrid
and as you may know the T.C. is being discontinued after the 2008 model year. I still have close to three years of warranty on my DTS but am unsure that my replacement car will be another GM product. I have never owned an import before but my next cars may be a Lexus and a Mercedes. Hopefully the American auto industry will address the issues that concern us all and address them in future models.
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Re: lemon law [swhite407]
by wes63
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Aug 02, 2008 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: swhite407 (May 24, 2008 11:32 am)
Well you can forget about GM helping you solve any problems you may have with your Cadillac DTS or any other vehicle. I followed the procedure in the owners manual when I could not rectify my problem through the dealership. I sent a registered letter/receipt requested and seven attempts were made to pasify (sp) me. They stated that DTS vibrations WERE NORMAL and I needed to put more miles on the car in order for the vibrations to go away. I DOUBT IT VERY MUCH. They said they would make arrangements with the dealership to complete another test drive, BUT THE DEALER DID NOT HAVE TO AGREE TO PERFORMING MORE WORK IF THEY FELT IT WAS NOT NEEDED. The dealership REFUSED to test drive the car. GM said they were through with me!
I have purchased over 20 GM vehicles in my life and I AM DONE WITH GM. One thing is for sure, many people will by GM and when there are problems they can expect to receive no assistance. The lemon law in this state covers me for two years/24K miles, and there may be relief one day. Until then I will tell everyone about GM's customer assistance program, oh sorry I mean LACK OF A CUSTOMER SERVICE PROGRAM. Good luck to all DTS/GM vehicle owners - no wonder GM is experiencing financial difficulties. I'm ALL AMERICAN and my next vehicle will be FOREIGN - with no GM affiliation.
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Re: lemon law [wes63]
by swhite407
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Aug 02, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: wes63 (Aug 02, 2008 7:08 am)
GM finally agreed to repurchase my 06' DTS. They paid off my balance of almost $41,000 + gave me $8600 out of which I had to pay my attorney $2700. It took me 7 months, but I was not going to be stuck with that lemon. I couldn't even trade it in because I owed too much...it had 31,000 miles on it and the warranty would be up soon. So good riddens...I bought a HYUNDAI with a 100,000 mile warranty and I am very happy after owning 4 Cadillacs.
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Re: lemon law [swhite407]
by bremertong
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Aug 02, 2008 (9:23 pm)
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Replying to: swhite407 (Aug 02, 2008 9:27 am)
I am glad that you got the matter resolved. My local Cadillac dealership has opened a Hyundai dealership right next to the GM part. I am very impressed with the Hyundai Genesis, the Luxury model of Hyundai. I have been barely satisfied with my 2006 DTS and suspect that this may be my last Cadillac. As you may know, GM just posted a 15 billion dollar loss in its most recent reporting period. The part of all this that surprises me most is that the same tired top management is left in place to take the company from one problem to the next. At least Ford had the good sense to change top management a little over a year ago and while they are not out of the woods they seem to be doing a bit better than they were. I wish you success with your new Hyundai and will look for your postings at the Hyundai owners site. Best wishes.
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Re: Suspension/Wheel/Front end problems [swhite407]
by etowah
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Aug 17, 2008 (12:48 pm)
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Replying to: swhite407 (Apr 08, 2008 12:27 pm)
8/17/08 - Reading about your 2006 DTS and I saw a huge "light" go off!!!! I am experiencing the following with my DTS - yes, I hear about 5 "knocks" coming from the rear every day - only happens on the first "start up" of the day - usually about 5-6 blocks from home - rapid fire, 5 knocks. I also heard it in my previous 2003 DeVille - never questioned it, however. I attributed it to just my luck with cars. And you are absolutely right about the clunking noise coming from the right front area; it has been at the dealer's twice for this - once because they could not duplicate, then I drove while the service person rode with me and he heard it; they fixed it - said it was struts. But now, several months later, it's back - same old clunking. Also had it in the shop for rear speaker problem- still doesn't sound right and my back "dash" is noticeably higher up than it should be. Today, for the second time in about 8 months, went out to go to church and turned the key and had absolutely nothing. Had to have it jumped off, again. This is my third Cadillac, and each one has had a "mystery" problem relating to not starting. It is so very inconvenient to go through this. Next time (in 1 year when I turn it in), I'm looking for something else - Cadillac will not be at the top of my list. Let me say this, however, I do have great relationship with dealer and am treated courteously and always given a Cadillac to drive while mine is being "fixed". Hope they are as kind tomorrow a.m. when I tell them of today's problem with not starting.
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