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#786 of 896 Re: lemon law [wes63]
May 24, 2008 (11:32 am)
After 6 months of trying to get my 2006 DTS lemon-lawed, Cadillac (GM) is still playing games with me. I will not stop until they repurchase this car because of all the suspension problems I have had with it. It has sat in my garage for the last 6 months because I refuse to drive it.GM stated there was nothing wrong with the car. After the BBB turned me down because GM reps LIED, I took it back to another dealership and they found bad tie rod ends. This was AFTER they replaced lower control arms, front end axle and front srut assembly twice! I continue to have a bad vibration (my tires have been changed by the dealership already BTW) in the front end. My meeting with the Atty. Generals office was set for May 6th. GM notified my attorney that they were going to repurchase the car and make me a written offer by May 6th. Today is May 24th and we have heard nothing! Because GM told the attorney of the written offer, my meeting with the Atty. Generals office got post-poned for 90 days. SO...to make a long story short, if you plan to take on the Cadillac division of GM, be prepared for their games and lies. After 4 Cadillacs, I am perfectly happy with my trouble-free Hyundai!
#787 of 896 Re: lemon law [wes63]
May 25, 2008 (9:35 am)
There have been Park Avenue owners who have had problems with vibrations too, so do not think that it is only the DTS or DeVilles that have this problem. If replacement or balancing the tires does not resolve the problem, then something is out of balance, like the brake rotors. Since the brake rotors don't come off with the wheels, they will stay out of balance. I think unresolved vibrations are a problem for a very few owners.
The basic problem with trying to make a FWD sedan into a sport sedan is that the weight on the front wheels makes handling less than perfect (whatever that may mean). The RWD Cadillac sedans (STS and CTS) are sport sedans and are a better choice than the DTS for a sport sedan.
#788 of 896 Re: lemon law [sls002]
May 25, 2008 (10:21 pm)
Hey All....Long time no post!
Anyhoo...........I finally took the plunge and traded my 03 Deville base that
had 53k miles and was for the most part troublefree with only 1 visit
to the service dept. for a water pump seal and a emission programming
recall. Aside from several $19.95 oil changes no other services were
required in the almost 5 years I had the car....................
While wintering in Daytona the local Caddy dealer had several used
o7 DTS models for a reasonable $27k so I figured I would take a look!
Found a nice loaded out Lux 3 pkg in Diamond white that was a GM PEP
unit and not a rental with 2,700 miles.
I wanted a new 08 but even with my GM employee deal the MSRP of
almost $50k on a lux3 and my final price of around $38k the 07 was
quite the deal !!!!!!!!!!!
I only got $15k trade allowance on my 53k mile 03 but it did need
brakes and tires as the original Michelins were pretty thin............
I hope this new one will serve me as well as my past Caddies and
I do run them hard and put them away wet at times !
#789 of 896 Re: lemon law [wes63]
May 27, 2008 (8:14 am)
Speed dependent vibration in a car is usually caused an imbalance of a rotating mass, most likely the wheels and tires. In a fwd car there is no long driveshaft connecting the rear axle to the transmission, so let's assume it's the wheel/tire combination. When the tires are mounted they need to be matched to the wheels; the high spot (mass) on the tire is matched to the low spot on the tire. This is usually indicated by painted dots. Then, the balancing should be done with an on-car spin balancer. This will compensate for any remaining imbalances and most accurately simulate real world driving. If your dealer doesn't have an on-car spin balancer, go to an independent who does. FYI: I've got Michelin Pilots on my 07 DTS and everything is very smooth. Now if we could eliminate the vibration from the Northstar V-8 and the road noise, I'd be happy with it.
#790 of 896 Re: lemon law [kenb757]
May 28, 2008 (7:01 am)
It is important to have both a static as well as dynamic balance. I think that the on car balance method only gets you a static balance, but if the wheels/tires are balanced first to get the dynamic balance, then the on car balance can correct of any problems that may exist with the rotating mass composed of the brake rotors and axles.
#791 of 896 Re: Reliable DTS? Anybody have one? [bremertong]
Jul 02, 2008 (6:43 am)
Are you thinking of an MKS? I've been looking at the brochure and plan to drive one when local dealers have them. I really wanted a new STS or DTS but the 2008 DTS is apparently identical to my 2006 and 2009's will be too. STS's always feel so cramped because of their two-foot wide consoles which I hate.
Seems like, no matter how big or small the exterior of a car, the driver gets a 20 by 40 inch box in which to live.
Bring back the Hummer 1. (well maybe not, but they were roomy).
#792 of 896 FUEL ECONOMY AND MY 2006 DTS
Jul 11, 2008 (8:43 pm)
I own a 2006 DTS that now has a little over 8000 miles on it. It is my third Deville and gets the worst fuel economy of the three. The window sticker said 15 city and 23 highway at time of purchase. I am actually getting around 19 city and 26.5 highway. Problem is that my 2004 Deville got around 29 highway and 20.5 city. With gas prices headed much higher than they are now I think Cadillac Division needs to do more to address this problem of fuel economy in its cars. YES I can afford it but also feel that Cadillac should have been working on this fuel economy issue for the last several years. As you probably know the cost of fuel has been rising for several years and Cadillac has done nothing to address the issue. With shares of General Motors now trading at less than ten dollars a share and the same old tired chairmen spews out the same irrelevant statements time after time while the foreign competition developes and markets hybrids here and now. In the past Cadillac has been an innovator and it's time for the division to step up and innovate in the matter of fuel efficiency. I also own a 2005 Lincoln Town Car that gets better fuel efficiency both highway and city than my 2006 DTS, the T.C. also weighs 400 pounds more than the DTS.
#793 of 896 Re: FUEL ECONOMY AND MY 2006 DTS [bremertong]
Jul 15, 2008 (9:24 am)
I also own a 2005 Lincoln Town Car that gets better fuel efficiency both highway and city than my 2006 DTS, the T.C. also weighs 400 pounds more than the DTS.
And the Town Car isn't as quick or powerful...part of the price you pay for better economy on these dated engine designs.
#794 of 896 heated steering wheel problem '04 DTS
Jul 16, 2008 (10:26 am)
Only right side will heat up.
anyone taken the wheel apart to repair an element problem?
#795 of 896 Re: FUEL ECONOMY AND MY 2006 DTS [thegraduate]
Jul 16, 2008 (5:19 pm)
Realizing a lot of this is personal taste: I drove a TownCar for a week last year and found it overly soft and sloppy handling--the brakes were a disaster, too soft and not very supportive seats, and a very winded engine once you left the city streets for the highway. I've owned a '08 DTS performance for 3 months now and it still impresses me with its controlled ride (it has the magnetic struts), interior comfort, and great zip of the Northstar (and coming from a Hemi powered 300C, that's saying something). Totally different feeling cars, and that's reflected in their names: Town Car vs Deville Touring Sedan. I would feel much more secure on a twisty mountain road in the DTS. Alas, I do have to pay the gas bills and the performance gearing means higher revs on the highway and longer times in lower gears when accelerating. My commuting average is only 19 mpg (the Hemi would average 21). But it's worth it for the ride....