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#747 of 896 Re: Reliable DTS? Anybody have one? [thegraduate]
Mar 26, 2008 (10:00 pm)
I own both a 2005 Town Car and A 2006 DTS. No doubt that for me the Town Car is the better choice, It doesn't have that many high tec features as DTS but is much more reliable, feels like a luxury car (DTS fells more like a performance sedan). I have owned my Town Car for close to two years with no issues, the DTS had several issues with the electrical system
when purchased new. The electrical system in DTS is still quirky at times but runs as designed most of the time. I enjoy owning these two fine cars but may choose either a Toyota, Honda, or Nissan as my partner for Town Car in the future. I am amazed to see so many American flags on the Japanese cars, I have never owned a foreign car but my experience with this DTS (my Third Cadillac) tells me it's time to strongly consider a Japanese car. The new car warranty on my DTS runs until mid 2011 or I would be inclined to trade it sooner.
#749 of 896 Re: Reliable DTS? Anybody have one? [bremertong]
Mar 28, 2008 (5:25 am)
Judging from the posts on cadillacforums, I came to the conclusion that 2006 (which--correct me if I'm wrong--was the first year of the current design) was a particularly bad year for Cadillac. Even though the drivetrain was virtually identical, that year had many, many more complaints on quality. At least that's what I'm hoping since I will take delivery of a new 2008 DTS Performance next week.
I'd have to disagree with you on the Town Car. Granted, my only driving experience with one was a week long rental last year. But for such a large luxury car I found it uncomfortable. The seats gave the first impression of being soft, but I swear I could feel a hard bottom after awhile. Hated the driving position--plenty of legroom but sitting almost Corvette style with legs straight out rather than like sitting in a chair (which is what my 300C is like). Adequate performance around town but poor performance on the highway. Soft but not very controlled suspension. And one of the biggest complaints: Mushy brake pedal. I had to come to a sudden stop and had a hard time doing so...until I realized the engine was racing: The brake pedal mushed down so far that I ended up depressing the accelerator at the same time. (Granted, it WAS a rental car....). Overall it was a bit too dated for my tastes. Though I suppose for what you get for the money, it's a steal....
#750 of 896 Re: Reliable DTS? Anybody have one? [vic10]
Mar 28, 2008 (6:40 am)
I have a 2008 DTS Performance , I took delivery end of Nov 07 I am taking it for First Oil Change monday it should be at 6000 mile mark , I have no complaints and really have enjoyed the car so far ,The Lane change warning in the mirrors saved me ,Not sure how i miss them as i looked but as i started into lane no warning and then they where there so i just eased back over start all over again .
My Lady friend likes it enough she going to order a 09 in september , Enjoy the ride
#751 of 896 Re: Reliable DTS? Anybody have one? [vic10]
Mar 30, 2008 (8:46 pm)
Thanks you for your well thought out and detailed response. You may be right about the 2006 model year. Many years ago I had heard that first model years were not good model years to buy in any car
but I thought new quality controls by most manufacturers had improved upon this. I guess there could still be issues with first model years including Cadillac. I am reasonably satisfied with 2006 DTS but just have had bullet proof results with my Town Car. In addition (for me) the best part of my experience with T.C. has been the seats and interior comfort in general. One of the reasons I like the forums such as this is that owners can compare experiences and results and develop better insights in to the car owning experience. Of course this experience is enhanced when people like your self post their experiences with out trying to diminish the experiences
of other owners and posters at this forum. Thanks again!
#752 of 896 LOOKING FOR INPUT FOR ONSTAR
Apr 03, 2008 (8:26 pm)
My onstar free first year enrollment will expire in a few months and am seriously thinking of dropping the service. My reasoning is that I have never used the phone (have my own cell phone which never use when in motion) , when I had electrical system problems Onstar was unable to detect any problem and in fact has never been able to detect any problem with this car. Recently someone told me they were locked out of their car and Onstar was unable to unlock the car by their remote system. I realize that if I go off a cliff or have other kinds of accidents the system will contact assistance I rarely drive at night and for Seventeen dollars a month I suspect the chances of Onstar saving my life are less than my winning a mega bucks lottery if I bought seventeen dollars worth of tickets each month. Realistically people probably take a billion or more car trips a year both long and short distances and if Onstar has saved 100 lives they are sure using it as a big marketing tool. Having said all this I am eager to learn of others experiences and opinions regarding Onstar. I had a really bad experience with Onstar early this year when they were using an auto dialer to call me a few times a day to pitch additional Onstar services. It took the assistance of Cadillac customer service and Onstar to get my phone number out of the system.
There is no right or wrong in this so any and all opinions are appreciated to help me evaluate whether
I need this system.
Apr 04, 2008 (5:33 am)
I have an '07 DTS and my wife has an '07 STS. Both have On Star. Only the DTS has the NAV system and frankly I find it less than easy to use. For that reason and because of the absence of the NAV system in my wife's STS, we both rely heavily on OnStar's turn-by-turn directions. We both have used the program many many times in many different situations and it has worked flawlessly on every occasion. In addition to the audible directions through the radio, directions are also visibly provided via the DIC.
In addition, my wife had a flat tire recently in a remote area. She merely pulled over, kept the car doors locked and called OnStar for Cadillac's Roadside Assistance. Such assistance was forthcoming within minutes. For this alone I would keep OnStar operational.
#754 of 896 Re: LOOKING FOR INPUT FOR ONSTAR [bremertong]
Apr 04, 2008 (5:47 am)
Insurance is nothing but a lottery: You're betting you'll need the $$$ assistance and the insurance company is betting you won't. I think of OnStar as another lottery.
On Cadillac.forums, one of the CTS contributors told how he was going down this relatively remote road, took a turn too fast, and rolled his car. OnStar responded when the airbags went off. As a result, he said he'd never drive without it.
If you've never had an event when it was needed, then the yearly cost seems like a waste. But if you've needed it just once, you can probably justify it forever.
I have no personal experience YET (If my new DTS doesn't come today I'll attack someone....). Ask me in a year if I think it's worth it. Since the car doesn't have NAV, I'll probably get some use...though I NEVER get lost.....
#755 of 896 Re: OnStar Pluses [davebuswell]
Apr 06, 2008 (8:16 am)
I have the NAV in my SRX and I find it easy to use. Putting an address in is somewhat different from the way one might expect, but after reading the manual over and playing with it some, I find the NAV very useful. However, the OnStar directions are much easier in that you can summon the OnStar help and tell them the address bypassing the problem of getting the address into the NAV. But can you deviate from the directions? With the NAV if you deviate, it will try to turn you around, but if that is not succesful, it will compute a new route.
#756 of 896 Re: LOOKING FOR INPUT FOR ONSTAR [vic10]
Apr 07, 2008 (10:13 pm)
I keep a cell phone in my Town Car and hope that will be enough for DTS if I give up Onstar. As mentioned before I drive mostly on main roads and rarely at night. You make a good point, if you needed it just once, might be a life saver. Be sure to post your reactions and feedback on your new DTS and best wishes with it!