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#722 of 896 Took a Long Time to Post...
Feb 26, 2008 (6:42 am)
...but I just purchased a leftover new 2007 Cadillac DTS Performance back on Friday, November 23, 2007. I traded a 2002 Cadillac Seville STS. My car is Black Raven with the Ebony leather interior. It has just about every conceivable option on it. Unfortunately, I haven't driven the car too much due to the inclement weather. Can't wait for spring so I can take this baby out on the road again! Until then, I'm driving my old 1988 Buick Park Avenue.
Oh, and that whole deal about the DTS being an "old person's car?" I'm a very youthful 42!
Feb 26, 2008 (8:11 am)
I wouldn't be too sure about 42 being youthful...why, you're almsot ready to file for Social Security...have you started looking into nursing homes yet???
...........................I just slay me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#724 of 896 Re: Took a Long Time to Post... [lemko]
Feb 26, 2008 (11:56 am)
I have an 06 DTS Performance model with every option except for adaptive cruise control, and have now put about 11k on it. I wouldn't have bought a DTS except for the Performance package, with the peppy engine and the excellent suspension.
I love the acceleration of this car, at all speeds. The regular DTS, by contrast, seems very sluggish to me, like a grandfatherly car.
#725 of 896 Re: Took a Long Time to Post... [kpsm]
Feb 26, 2008 (4:21 pm)
In total agreement with you on the DTS vs DTS Performance. Very much a different automobile. Comparing a DTS Lux III to a STS Performance (V6), I much preferred the STS. But the gents on the Cadillacforums urged me to drive the DTS Performance before buying anything. I did and preferred it over the STS in performance, response, and of course comfort and space. It even felt more responsive than the V8 STS, and that was after a back to back comparison. The result: I ordered a new DTS last week....
#727 of 896 Re: Took a Long Time to Post... [kpsm]
Feb 28, 2008 (7:49 am)
The difference is due more to the axle ratio differences: the base engine has a 3.11:1 ratio while the performance model gets a 3.71:1 ratio. The performance engine actually has less torque, particularly at lower engine speeds (below 3000 RPMs). However, with the gearing differences, the torque (and horsepower) at the wheels is somewhat greater with the performance package. The graphs of the torque and horsepower for each engine are:
The RWD northstar adds variable valve timing and has more torque than either FWD engine:
However, this engine is not rated with the current SAE standard.
#728 of 896 Re: Took a Long Time to Post... [sls002]
Feb 28, 2008 (7:02 am)
That's very interesting information.
When I was looking at cars, I did not get really interested until I did a test drive in a Performance Model DTS. On ride and I was ready to sign up.
And I still have fun driving the car. It's like, not more miles per gallon, but more smiles per gallon, to paraphrase a line that I saw in a recent movie.
#729 of 896 I am contemplating
Feb 29, 2008 (6:43 pm)
a used 2006 DTS to replace my Crown Vic, because of the highway mpg of 25-27, and my local repair shop (Goodyear) informed me that the performance model had special tires that wore out after 25-30K miles, very expensive, and that the 3.71 ratio meant that the performance model only got about 20 on the highway (altho it performed much better)...
If true, I could probably replace the perf tires with luxury size tires for 70K miles, but I could not change the rear ratio...
For those who have the perf model, what kind of highway mpg do you get???
#730 of 896 Re: I am contemplating [marsha7]
Mar 01, 2008 (8:20 am)
The performance model has H rated tires for speed because the performance DTS has a higher speed limiter than the base models. If the tires are all season I think that they will last for a reasonable distance. The EPA numbers show about 1 MPG less for the performance model on the highway. It might be more like 2 MPG, but a lot depends on how you drive. How fast you cruise at will make a bigger difference for either axle ratio. With my SLS (base engine) I could usually average around 29 MPG by limiting my cruising speed to 70 MPH or less (if speed limit was less) on long trips. Cruising faster (or a strong headwind) would reduce the mileage to 25 to 27 MPG. A very strong wind once reduced the mileage below 25 MPG.
#731 of 896 Re: Took a Long Time to Post... [kpsm]
Mar 01, 2008 (8:26 am)
When the 2006 DTS was introduced, one of the car magazines had an introductory test of it and the Lucerne. The DTS was performance and the Buick was the base V8. The difference was less than half a second to 60 MPH, but the base DTS would be about a half second slower due the heavier body. Cadillac at one time had some data on a web site showing this. The higher performance axle gearing will give the driver a feel of greater performance in the same gear.