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#698 of 896 2009 Changes?
Dec 31, 2007 (5:43 am)
A recent post on the cadillac owners webpage indicated there would be an interior upgrade to the DTS in 2009. Anyone here heard about that? One of my bigger disappointments, after a long test drive in a 2008 DTS, was getting picked up by a friend in her 2007 Impala and noting that the dash design was virtually identical to the 2X priced DTS. Chevy used to be called the poor man's Cadillac but, this is a little too close to being right on.
#699 of 896 Re: 2009 Changes? [vic10]
Dec 31, 2007 (10:55 am)
Well if they look the same to you then you should buy the Impala. I have taken a look at both interiors on their respective websites and I don't see that they are identical.
Dec 31, 2007 (2:15 pm)
I never remember Chevy as the poor man's Cadillac, I seem to recall that was either Olds 98 or Buick Electra 225/Park Avenue...
But, as I get older, my memory does fail me at times...
#701 of 896 Re: 2009 Changes? [sls002]
Dec 31, 2007 (2:53 pm)
Key word is virtually. Switch gear the same. Probably use the same multi task signal/washer/wiper/high beam stalk. Instrument cluster the same shape, though the DTS has chrome rings around the dials. Steering wheel the same, though instead of the bowtie you get the Cadillac crest in the middle. Take out the wood trim "bump" over the glove box area, making it a constant width, and tie together the horizontal wood trim line and the vertical wood trims around the a/c & radio controls and voila. A much stronger family resemblance than you use to see in the previous generations. Interior shapes and styles are almost more important to me than exterior since it's the part of the car I see the most.....
#702 of 896 Re: 2009 Changes? [vic10]
Jan 01, 2008 (10:02 am)
Without actually looking at both steering wheels it is difficult to say they are not the same, but the pictures do not look quite the same to me. But both do have 4 spokes at about the same location. I think that the switch gear is used on many GM vehicles, not just DTS and Impala. Perhaps you should consider a Buick Lucerne, which is the same basic car as the DTS, and with the V8, it has the same engine. I think that the Impala does not have real wood trim, but some plastic simulation, while the DTS has real wood.
#703 of 896 Re: 2009 Changes? [sls002]
Jan 01, 2008 (2:22 pm)
Ah, but it's not a Caddy.... Through the years I've worked my way through Pontiacs and Buicks (the old Park Ave. and the Riviera) and now it's time for what has always meant to me to be the top of the line. Although there were visual similarities between the DTS and Impala interior, they clearly were not the same car. The DTS had a far superior ride, smoother performance, and of course the rest of the interior was superior in look and in comfort. My only real problem is deciding between the CTS and the DTS. I only had a short drive with the dealer in the CTS and it felt more confining, like the intermediate size care it is, and though performance wise it might be closer to my 300C than the DTS, I'm not sure I want to accept the snug feeling of the interior. I'm also sure in short order I'd scrape off the lower front air dam on my driveway Am planning on a day rental, as I did with the DTS, to help with the decision. Then will have to see how hungry GM gets in the Spring.
#704 of 896 Re: 2009 Changes? [vic10]
Jan 01, 2008 (3:00 pm)
I think that you will find that the DTS's front end is easy to scrape on steeper driveways too, at least I found that to be the case with the few FWD's that I have owned.
#705 of 896 Re: 2009 Changes? [sls002]
Jan 02, 2008 (7:27 am)
Yup. All that overhang. Interestingly enough, I found I scrape if I back into the driveway (preferred) but don't if I nose in. The CTS, though, I think would be more problematic. It looks to have half the front end ground clearance of the DTS, so in addition to the driveway concerns, there would be the issue of high speed bumps and all those cement parking lot bumpers....
#706 of 896 Re: 2009 Changes? [vic10]
Jan 02, 2008 (8:17 am)
GM does not list ground clearance anymore, but my guess is that both are about the same. The difference is that the CTS's front wheels are closer to the frontend than the DTS's. You can check the CTS out on your driveway to see if that makes any difference. I can tell that my SRX, which is a SUV with 8 inches of clearance, does not scrape on any driveway I have tried it out on, and I have tried it out on the worst ones that I know about in this area.
#707 of 896 PROBLEMS WITH ONSTAR
Jan 03, 2008 (9:32 pm)
At the time I bought my 2006 DTS I gave Onstar my home phone number as phone of record. Now I am receiving unwanted marketing calls from them several times a week asking me to buy additional products marketed by Onstar. I have placed a complaint with Cadillac customer service and a complaint with Onstar both documented with file numbers. I was told well over ten days ago that the unwanted marketing calls would stop within ten days but I continue to receive as of this date which is many more than ten days ago. I tried to remove my home phone number at the online customer change phone number site but the computer would not accept my cell phone number in place of my home phone. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a quick and simple way to resolve it? Needless to say it is very unlikely I will pay to keep Onstar when the one year free subscription expires in a few months. The fact that Cadillac has not been able to help resolve this issue is one more reason that I may not buy another Cadillac. With this kind of activity on the part of Onstar they are helping both Mercedes and Lexus in tha I don't need a system that hard sells its product with unwanted marketing calls. Any information by other owners to resolve this issue will be appreciated.