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#576 of 896 MORE ON 2006 DTS ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Aug 30, 2007 (7:35 pm)
I suspect that the electrical system in this car is flawed in that when I started the car today the engine turned over with hesitation and I heard three times from the audio system with no error message. Ignitition was hesitant at each crank but the car started. I see that there is a product put out by Black & Decker that charges the battery from the cigarette lighter power source. The price is $ 50 dollars and it claims it will charge the battery in a few minutes. I may buy as an interim approach to using the car.
Since the car is to my taste and am very pleased with it when it works am trying to avoid the Cadillac repurchase or
Lemon law programs but this may in fact be going in that direction. I fully expect the batttery will go dead again very soon and hope if I have the Black and Decker charger it will work and provide an interim solution to this problem. RESPONSES BY OTHER DTS OWNERS will be appreciated
particularly if you have had electrical system issues with your car.
#577 of 896 Re: MORE ON 2006 DTS ELECTRICAL SYSTEM [bremertong]
Aug 31, 2007 (6:10 am)
Now I am puzzled again. In your previous post you stated that the engine stalled. You said nothing about the battery being weak. If the battery is weak, you need to tell your service department about that. I suggest that you try to explain things in plain english. In particular:
"Ignitition was hesitant at each crank"
Are you trying to say that the starter is cranking the engine over very slowly because the batter is weak
#578 of 896 Re: MORE ON 2006 DTS ELECTRICAL SYSTEM [sls002]
Aug 31, 2007 (9:56 pm)
RESPONSES BY OTHER DTS OWNERS WILL BE APPRECIATED!
#579 of 896 Re: any one with 06 dts [bremertong]
Sep 02, 2007 (4:53 pm)
After driving a Jag Mk10 for several years I finally sold the lemon and bought a new 1966 Plymouth Belvedere - a totally stripped model with just power steering and automatic. It was great to have a car that started each morning without having to dry off the plug wires with a hair dryer. I agree with you on Plymouths. A friend drove his Dodge Dart to the junkyard when the body rusted away at 300 thousand miles. The old straight six started every time. I suspected that the junk yard guy drove it for several more years. I'm looking at a 2007 Luxury II next spring but if I get many more complaints on '06's and '07's on this forum I'll look seriously at a Lincoln Town Car. I'd like to get a Lexus but can't afford one and the Avalon is a nicer design. I drove an Avalon in Florida last year and was annoyed at the wind and road noise on the freeways.
#580 of 896 Re: any one with 06 dts [dispencer2]
Sep 02, 2007 (8:34 pm)
Appreciated your reply, I had the DTS out today and it seemed to run just fine, keep hoping that the problems will be corrected but am also preparing for more surprises. The first 2008 Lincoln Town Car has come off the assembly line
in St. Thomas, Canada to begin production there. My first Deville was produced in Canada and was the most reliable of the three Caddies I've owned. Am surprised to learn of the wind noise in Avalon, always thought these were very quiet vehicles. I also agree that while the Lexus may be one of the few most reliable and quality cars, they are also priced way up there. Still feel that a good and reliable DTS is one of the best values in the Luxury market.
#581 of 896 Re: hmmm [sls002]
Sep 12, 2007 (2:58 pm)
Well, here's the next chapter in the saga.
I took my DTS in for the power seat and B-pillar seat belt guide repairs on Thursday, 9/6, receiving a loaner car 'for the day' and was told the repairs would be done within only a few hours.
I phoned the service department at 4:45 to check for an update and was told they needed to keep the car at least overnight because some of the connectors snapped when they had to remove the power seat. No problem so far (I thought).
I received a call about 10:30 the next morning that the car was ready. Not even thinking I would need to check for damage, I took the car home even though there were dirty finger prints all over the interior as well as a lot of crumbs on the seat (I don't eat in the car at all and it had been vacuumed thoroughly since our road trip in July). This past weekend, while cleaning the interior, I noticed they put several gouges in the base of the b-pillar when removing/replacing the seat. Also, the trim plastics around the base of the seat are not aligned well any more (the passenger seat still looks great, so it's a noticeable difference).
Today, a passenger in my car tried to adjust the passenger seat and now it doesn't lift, either. We also tried to adjust the seat belts and noticed that neither of the new seat belt guides will move at all....the pieces don't even 'compress' as they should to release the catch and allow them to slide.
This has been a remarkably disappointing experience with the car. In addition to the tire wobble (yes, they were rotated once before the 10,000 rotation), I've had far too many build quality issues with this luxury car.
I will be calling the service department tomorrow. Wish me luck.
#582 of 896 Re: hmmm [robw64]
Sep 12, 2007 (9:05 pm)
I am very sympathetic to the problems you are having. Service departments are about the only place my cars have ever been damaged. Unless you are completely satisfied with the response that you get from the service department call Cadillac customer service department ASAP and document all these items with them. You have every right to prompt, courteous service and in my opinion the service department ought to make these issues up to you in some substantial form. Yes, I wish you luck but I also suggest that you present yourself in very polite but assertive fashion. In the future when you take your car in for service have the service advisor look the car over before turning it over to them and if they object remind them of this incident. When you pick the car up after service take a few minutes to check the car out for visible damage. This SHOULD NOT be necessary but given the realities of to days world it is absolutely the minimum you should do. In my opinion Cadillac corporate needs to assume a much more aggressive position with dealerships and their service departments. please post updates as time permits. It seems to me that an important benefit of these forums is for owners to share information that will help resolve problems and improve build quality and service.
#583 of 896 Reliable DTS? Anybody have one?
Sep 17, 2007 (4:20 pm)
I asked earlier if anyone on this Forum has an '06 or '07 DTS that has been relatively trouble free? I'm in the market next spring and from what I've heard I might buy a Town Car instead.
#584 of 896 Re: Reliable DTS? Anybody have one? [dispencer2]
Sep 17, 2007 (7:26 pm)
I'd think that most of us owners have an experience similar to mine. (It's the few with problems who tend to be vocal about it.)
I've just reached the 10,000 mile point for my '06 Performance Model DTS. This is absolutely the most trouble free car I've ever had. I've had the oil changed and had the tires rotated. Otherwise, I have not had the car in the shop.
The magnetic suspension really makes a difference in the ride. Almost everybody who rides in my car for the first time comments on how good the ride is.
I also like the navigation system a lot and just got my first free update DVD for it. I typically use the split screen display with the maps on one side and the XM program information on the other side.
My car has every available accessory, with the exception of the adaptive cruise control, which I intentionally excluded.
My wife has a new,loaded Lincoln MKZ, and she's had it in the shop several times for warranty repairs.
#585 of 896 Re: Reliable DTS? Anybody have one? [dispencer2]
Sep 17, 2007 (9:35 pm)
In addition to reliability I would strongly suggest that you evaluate, drive and consider both Town Car and DTS for your next purchase. I like both cars and would not want to part with either one. A lot of this is a matter of personal taste. To pick one or the other without doing some serious evaluation of both might not serve your best interests. From what I've been able to learn about the Lincoln line up, Town Car is probably on average the most reliable. Some fleet owners have run these (T.C.) cars up to 500,000 miles.