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#381 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [vic10]
Oct 26, 2006 (9:32 am)
I currently have a Lexus ES330, and a good friend has the Avalon. They are basically the same "Camry" in various forms. The Avalon has more room in the rear, but they both ride similarly. They are pretty quiet, but they are no Cadillac! The seats are much firmer, and the feel of the car is that of a much lighter vehicle.In addition,the car suffers from the famous transmission lag that you may have read about in most ES330s and other Toyotas. I personally can't wait until I replace the 330, and my 1st choice will probably be the DTS. If you're over 6' tall, you will not have that much leg room in the Toyotas! When you take that extended ride, there's nothing like the Caddie or Lincoln TC!!
#382 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [sls002]
Oct 26, 2006 (12:58 pm)
You should like the SRX -I have a friend with one in the real estate business and she likes it very much. It is also high enough so that it won't hit the bumps. I've never had a problem though with the Deville and I thought that it had about as much road clearance as the Seville/Eldorado. Apparentely not.
#383 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [beardie]
Oct 26, 2006 (1:09 pm)
The Lexus and the Avalon have far better resale value than any Cadillac but you can certainly avoid a big hit the first year by doing what I do and buying a year old "certified" Cadillac. My '03 cost $27k in January of '04 with 29k miles. It now has 55k and has needed nothing in the way of serious repairs. It came with a 6 year 100k 0 deductible warranty as well so it will be covered until October of 2008 (as long as I don't exceed 100k). My next one will have less mileage on it when I buy it but the '03 still looks brand new inside and out and drives like a new car as well. I agree with you on the Avalon. I found it comfortable to drive in the suburbs (I'm 5'10" so leg room was ok) but felt light on the road and the wind and road noise was annoying after awhile. The car magazines stress that this is a full size car but it isn't.
#384 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [vic10]
Oct 26, 2006 (1:15 pm)
I liked the comment on the "German Chevrolet". In Europe there are many Mercedes taxis and I understand that they produce (or used to produce) less expensive models that you can't get over here .
#385 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [dispencer1]
Oct 26, 2006 (4:12 pm)
I have the exact same thought re. a CPO Cadillac DTS. I've questioned a few dealers re. this and reluctantly they have to admit that if you get a CPO model 1 year old with limited milage, you're actually getting a better warranty than with a brand new car.My plan is to try to find a low milage 2007 in about 5 months.I know a lot of people are afraid of program cars, but I bought a Grand Prix program car for my daughter in 2002, and it's been trouble free! I guess there's a few different ways to go instead of putting down 40 big ones!
#386 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [vic10]
Oct 26, 2006 (8:58 pm)
Enjoyed your post very much! I own recent models of Cadillac Deville and Lincoln Town Car. I enjoy them both. They have plenty of power and are very comfortable cars. The Lincoln is more quiet with softer suspension and the Deville may have a little more power. My Deville is the second I have owned, so far I have had no major problems with either of my Cadillacs and have only owned the Lincoln for several months. As long as my American cars continue to provide the reliablilty as they have to this point I will not be buying a foreign car. The cars I own simply look better to me than any foreign luxury car I have seen. I also like the Chrysler 300C and SRT and may replace my Latest Deville with one of them. I owned a Chrysler LHS and while not a direct competitor to the Cadillac or Town Car it was a very pleasing experience.
In my opinion the reason many Americans replaced their American cars with Japanese models was reliability factors and poor dealership service issues in the past. The Americans realize that they must do better in these areas and are. It is just a matter of if they do enough in time to save the American makers.
#387 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [dispencer1]
Oct 27, 2006 (6:37 am)
The problem is not the ground clearance, but the FWD frontend overhang. FWD's have too much overhang, and with the air dams to reduce the drag coefficient, the front end easily hits the ground on steeper driveways. The RWD sigma cars have much less frontend overhang.
#388 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [beardie]
Oct 27, 2006 (5:36 pm)
Back in '04 the '03 program cars I looked at were all base models. Mine was an ex-Alamo rental car. A few months ago I looked at two 15,000 mile certified used '06 DTS's at a Fort Worth dealership and both had the Luxury II package along with a sun roof. You might also find a loaded lease return. I plan on getting at least the Luxury II package on the '07 I get in '08. The warranty IS better than a new one on a certified Cadillac but not on the other GM certified cars. They just tack three months onto the 36/36,000 mile warranty. With the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty on '07's "certification" which used to cost $1000 may cost less. I'm sure that some dealerships roll this fee into the sales price but if I wanted the '03 "certified" I had to pay an extra thousand dollars. I understand that in '06 this has gone up to $1500. It is still lots cheaper than buying a 6 year/100k mile GMPP on a new car.
#389 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [dispencer1]
Oct 28, 2006 (6:19 pm)
I have the same thought re. a CPO car. My hope is to get an 07 in March. Hopefully, there'll be some around by then. I also got the $1000 price to certify a vehicle.Personally, I think it's negotiable. It's not a set price, but one set by the dealer. If they want to move the vehicle, I'm sure they'll be flexible with the certifying price. I saw an 06 the other day at a local dealer with 5,000mi on it. I tell you, you could not tell this vehicle was not brand new. It's amazing how they can detail these to look brand new. I'm hoping to find a Lux ll also, as I want the stability control on it which is standard on the Lux 11.The only thing I worry about is that most of the new re-sales are silver or some other very common color. I love the blue chip or chrimson(red). Guess I'll have to start looking early. Nowadays, with the computer, the whole country is a possibility, as far as finding a desired car is concerned.
#390 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [vic10]
Oct 29, 2006 (10:59 am)
Different people value a car's features personally. I'm 6-6 so the tremendous leg room of the 06 DTS was important. My wife and I play a lot of golf. Two sets of clubs and two two suiter suitcases still leaves room to spare in the DTS's almost 19 cubic foot trunk. Try that in a 2006 Lexsus GS430 at 12.8 cubic feet or an Avalon at 14.8. I turned down an Infinti M35X because of the small trunk plus the passenger seat had far fewer adjustments than the driver's, something you might hear about on a long trip (and something the testers never test). The DTS is very quiet, plenty of power and I never come close to testing its lateral grip on twisty roads so that is a minor consideration.The DTS is a wonderful turnpike cruiser for long trips.