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#378 of 896 AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS
Oct 26, 2006 (5:20 am)
Autoweek issued a supplemental Buyers Guide with capsule comments on each of the 2007 cars. The summary on the DTS was "The perfect car to drive to a retirement village". They loved the Avalon - "A solid, beautifully built big car". I rented an Avalon for an extended trip in Florida last month. It is essentially a mid sized car - the same general size as my '06 Impala and suffers from a lot of wind and road noise. It started out as a stretched Camry and aside from the fancy interior it is still a stretched Camry. I can't figure out what is so wrong with the DTS. I've been driving big Cadillacs for years and like my '03. It has been essentially trouble free, gets 30 MPG on the road, is comfortable, quiet, and has enough power to pass anything safely. It also handles well. It also holds six passengers. My experience with BMW's, Audi's and the other long term favorites with car magazines is that they have spent more time in the shop than on the road. My Audi was a complete lemon and a 50,000 mile throwaway. I made the mistake buying one and driving it to work each day. I frequently arrived at work late and in the Audi dealer van. Obviously the DTS is not a "sport sedan" but so what? AutoWeek's comment is typical of car writer's views but road tests of the big Cadillacs are usually favorable. I wonder how many prospective buyers are swayed by these negative comments?
#379 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [dispencer1]
Oct 26, 2006 (6:46 am)
I think that the DTS is a good car for interstate highway cruising. Car & Driver said much the same thing. I like my 2002 Seville, but I am getting tired of dragging the nose on the pavement an slightly steeper than normal driveways or bumps in the road on city streets.
I have decided to try to sell my car and if successfull, will replace it with a RWD sigma model, probably a 2006 SRX.
#380 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [dispencer1]
Oct 26, 2006 (7:05 am)
Well first of all, the test drivers of most of those car magazine articles are maybe 25 and they think of "Mercedes" and "BMW" as I would think of "Cadillac" and "Lincoln" when reality is they actually represent "GM" and "Ford". So when they buy a Mercedes 190, they're not getting a "Caddy", they're really getting a German Chevrolet. But cachet is cachet. My first comparison with a Mercedes was in the early 70's when a girlfriend's family were bragging about theirs and how much was done during their 24K mile checkup, which only cost them $300., and I said, gee, I just had my 24K check on my Pontiac and it cost me $18. And I thought, for the money I'd have to spend maintaining that car, I could buy a new Pontiac every 3 years or so.... My opinion of German cars hasn't improved over the years. Toyotas are a bit better, though maintenance and parts are higher. But you get better value than with the German products.
All that being said, I LOVE American cars and have Cadillac on my list of wanna-own cars. I just bought a 300C because I couldn't resist the allure of a Hemi and consider the current Caddy models a bit too frumpy looking. But maybe next model change....
#381 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [vic10]
Oct 26, 2006 (9:32 am)
I currently have a Lexus ES330, and a good friend has the Avalon. They are basically the same "Camry" in various forms. The Avalon has more room in the rear, but they both ride similarly. They are pretty quiet, but they are no Cadillac! The seats are much firmer, and the feel of the car is that of a much lighter vehicle.In addition,the car suffers from the famous transmission lag that you may have read about in most ES330s and other Toyotas. I personally can't wait until I replace the 330, and my 1st choice will probably be the DTS. If you're over 6' tall, you will not have that much leg room in the Toyotas! When you take that extended ride, there's nothing like the Caddie or Lincoln TC!!
#382 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [sls002]
Oct 26, 2006 (12:58 pm)
You should like the SRX -I have a friend with one in the real estate business and she likes it very much. It is also high enough so that it won't hit the bumps. I've never had a problem though with the Deville and I thought that it had about as much road clearance as the Seville/Eldorado. Apparentely not.
#383 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [beardie]
Oct 26, 2006 (1:09 pm)
The Lexus and the Avalon have far better resale value than any Cadillac but you can certainly avoid a big hit the first year by doing what I do and buying a year old "certified" Cadillac. My '03 cost $27k in January of '04 with 29k miles. It now has 55k and has needed nothing in the way of serious repairs. It came with a 6 year 100k 0 deductible warranty as well so it will be covered until October of 2008 (as long as I don't exceed 100k). My next one will have less mileage on it when I buy it but the '03 still looks brand new inside and out and drives like a new car as well. I agree with you on the Avalon. I found it comfortable to drive in the suburbs (I'm 5'10" so leg room was ok) but felt light on the road and the wind and road noise was annoying after awhile. The car magazines stress that this is a full size car but it isn't.
#384 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [vic10]
Oct 26, 2006 (1:15 pm)
I liked the comment on the "German Chevrolet". In Europe there are many Mercedes taxis and I understand that they produce (or used to produce) less expensive models that you can't get over here .
#385 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [dispencer1]
Oct 26, 2006 (4:12 pm)
I have the exact same thought re. a CPO Cadillac DTS. I've questioned a few dealers re. this and reluctantly they have to admit that if you get a CPO model 1 year old with limited milage, you're actually getting a better warranty than with a brand new car.My plan is to try to find a low milage 2007 in about 5 months.I know a lot of people are afraid of program cars, but I bought a Grand Prix program car for my daughter in 2002, and it's been trouble free! I guess there's a few different ways to go instead of putting down 40 big ones!
#386 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [vic10]
Oct 26, 2006 (8:58 pm)
Enjoyed your post very much! I own recent models of Cadillac Deville and Lincoln Town Car. I enjoy them both. They have plenty of power and are very comfortable cars. The Lincoln is more quiet with softer suspension and the Deville may have a little more power. My Deville is the second I have owned, so far I have had no major problems with either of my Cadillacs and have only owned the Lincoln for several months. As long as my American cars continue to provide the reliablilty as they have to this point I will not be buying a foreign car. The cars I own simply look better to me than any foreign luxury car I have seen. I also like the Chrysler 300C and SRT and may replace my Latest Deville with one of them. I owned a Chrysler LHS and while not a direct competitor to the Cadillac or Town Car it was a very pleasing experience.
In my opinion the reason many Americans replaced their American cars with Japanese models was reliability factors and poor dealership service issues in the past. The Americans realize that they must do better in these areas and are. It is just a matter of if they do enough in time to save the American makers.
#387 of 896 Re: AutoWeek Comment on the 2007 DTS [dispencer1]
Oct 27, 2006 (6:37 am)
The problem is not the ground clearance, but the FWD frontend overhang. FWD's have too much overhang, and with the air dams to reduce the drag coefficient, the front end easily hits the ground on steeper driveways. The RWD sigma cars have much less frontend overhang.