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#21 of 854 anti-FWD by mrmanguy25 Nov 10, 2003 (5:55 pm)
For Cadillac to go with a FWD platform for the next gen Deville would be a mistake. It certainly can't compete as an S-Class/7-series fighter with FWD -- The days of FWD are fading fast.
#22 of 854 by theo2709 Nov 10, 2003 (8:29 pm)
The next Deville will not be the S-class fighter Lutz wanted it to be. It will be redesgined on the current G-body, and it will cater to the older buyers. A true A8 type will come in 2008/09 on a new RWD platform, which may be shared with a Sixteen of some type.
#23 of 854 by regfootball Nov 10, 2003 (8:47 pm)
it needs to remain a volume FWD car to appease the market that currently buys the car and to have at least one Caddy that will sell in cold weather climates. The blue hair crowd buys lexus' not Mercedes S classes. And honestly, most of Caddy's clientele will buy anything with a Caddy logo on it anyways.   I would add Caddy should get off its cheap butt and develop an AWD sedan.
#24 of 854 by mrmanguy25 Nov 11, 2003 (5:15 am)
I don't see any advantages at all in going with FWD. Any advantage it once had in snow/ice has been eliminated, traction control and stability control evened the playing field between FWD and RWD. You think all those devoted 60+ Deville buyers will care if they make the move to RWD as long as it rides/drives the same? Half of them probably don't even know that the current one is FWD. If people feel that the Caddy sedans aren't safe in the snow, (which I'm sure they are and even if they're not convinced, get off their lazy butts and get snow tires), thats what the AWD SRX and Escalade are for. Car enthusiasts often refer to FWD as wrong-wheel drive, and for a good reason. Everything is wrong with it.   But on a side note, regfootball you're right, AWD would solve all of this =)
#25 of 854 lol...you don't live in the snow belt........! by regfootball Nov 18, 2003 (8:58 pm)
all the geezers in the midwest buy devilles because they are FWD......   trac and stab cntrl help some but are no substitute for FWD....trust me...I was a diehard RWD fan, but I got converted. I even did the snow tires thing. It helps a ton. But FWD w/ snow tires is even better.....   and regular non car people are too lazy and too dumb to latch on to the snow tires thing. especially when they expect a 60,000 dollar vehicle should not need anything extra to make it drivable.   why do you think the Lexus ES300 is popular? SNOW! Gotta have one Lexus with FWD for the masses.   An older lady in church who is in real estate bought a new IS300 when it came out. She wanted a Lexus so bad.....and she had no clue what was up with RWD.....after 6 months she had traded it for an ES.....couldn't drive it in winter......   people like that need FWD.   And yes, I feel for the price they are asking just go AWD standard. that would solve everything.
#26 of 854 Problem is the Dealers by arenn Nov 19, 2003 (8:16 pm)
The main problem I see with a "traditional" DTS is not the vehicle per se, but the dealers. Go to almost any Cadillac dealer today and 50% of the cars on the lot are DeVille's. If Caddy really wants to change its image, it can't have it's new school cars hidden behind three rows of existing DeVille's. It will kill the brand.
#27 of 854 by tomcat630 Nov 21, 2003 (2:25 pm)
I do get sick of "Car people" who talk as if anyone over 60 is 'mindless, clueless and irrelevant'. My parents know a lot about cars and are far from the nasty desriptions above, and not all seniors drive 'old' style cars. Yes, there are "car enthusiasts" over 60!   FWD isn't "All wrong". For economy, basic use/point A to point B driving, it is suitable. Nobody slams Lexus for offering a FWD enrty car.
#28 of 854 by mrmanguy25 Nov 22, 2003 (1:54 pm)
Well I suppose FWD isn't "all" wrong, but the problem is that we aren't dealing with basic, economy point A to point B driving. The car of discussion here is a full size luxury sedan where poor weight distribution (and therefore poor handling), torque steer and other issues are not acceptable.
#29 of 854 by tomcat630 Nov 24, 2003 (1:35 pm)
Well, if the DTS is RWD, it should offer the same price point as today.
#30 of 854 by regfootball Nov 27, 2003 (6:35 pm)
none of Audi's cars are RWD. Many Audis are sold FWD only. Doesn't hurt them.   DTS could be FWD but offered with AWD.   Domestics ahve always been so afraid to offer AWD cars...I am sure there's always a zillion EXCUSES for not doing so.

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