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#143 of 896 What's with the new look
Jun 04, 2005 (10:21 am)
I love my 1998 Cadillac DeVille Concours and have been shoping for my next Cadillac. I was planning on the new STS, but when I saw the interior of the new one I said forget it. I like the 2005 DTS, and I think this will be my last Cadiallc ever -- the new look is hideous! I hate the CTS, think the interior of the STS looks like a refrigerator, and the the body styling and read of the 2006 DeVille is just plain butt-ugly.
I don't know what the exec's at GM just keep missing the mark -- those who buy this brand want a luxury car that has a disctinct look and feel to it; with the 2006's you're no different than the Japanese cars. Leave it alone! Remember you customer base are not the 20-something's who want a "wanna-be" luxury car, but are those who have attained a position in life and want a luxury car that is distinctive in styling yes doesn't look as if I am going through a mid-life crisis.
If Cadillac continues on this neo-furutistic look for 2007, then absolutely they have lost a customer.
#144 of 896 Re: What's with the new look [jplaich]
Jun 10, 2005 (6:41 am)
The thing that I can't understand is this prejudice against senior citizens that the car reviewers seem to have. Buicks are for "blue haired matrons", Devilles are for "old people" etc etc. There are lots and lots of people over 60 and the life span of these old folks increases every year. They have plenty of money to buy expensive cars and many of them take long road trips and like Devilles, LeSabres, Town Cars, Mercedes S Models, Lexus 430's etc. I'm not crazy about the new DTS either. The old Deville had the nicest lines since the 1966 Cadillac. Why is it sinful to build a conservative car that appeals to older people? I wouldn't take a cross country trip in a Toyota Camry. I don't have to. I like my Deville and hopefully will buy several more. I would think that the car manufacturers would deliberately slant advertising to older people. Cadillac used to back in the '50's and '60's. Cruise lines that operate really upscale ships do, and so on, but car reviewers automatically discount Devilles, LeSabres, etc as cars for old people. I went through my sport car phase -I don't have to drive them anymore thank God.
#145 of 896 What to do!
Jun 12, 2005 (8:15 pm)
I currently own a 2002 Caddy DTS, Loaded with everything but the Moon roof. always dealer maintained and brand new tires. the car has 56,000 miles and I am ready to trade it. But Have decided that since my dealer is a con-artist. I won't go back to them and have started looking at Mercedes and Lexus vehicles. GM has seemingly decided that Owner loyality means nothing and the value of a 2002 DTS to this dealer is almost 75% less then the original sticker price. How will GM stay in business if they can't take a buyer who is in his forties on his 4th Caddy and sell him another one. Is it just me or is it The Hendrick dealership I am doing business with or GM.
#146 of 896 Re: What to do! [kcmover]
Jun 13, 2005 (3:16 pm)
A used car trade in to a dealer is worth -at the most - exactly what it would cost the dealer to purchase a similar one at the GM auction of ex-rental cars and lease returns. The "wholesale blue book" is a joke. How does the price the dealer wanted to pay you for your 2002 DTS compare to the wholesale blue book ? I'll bet it was $2-3k less. I would sell the car privately. If you have any realtors who are friends I'd create a flyer with a photo of the car and details on it along with the private party price. Ask him or her to distribute the flyer at the next meeting of the local Board of Realtors (these are usually once a week and the realtors do a house tour of new listings after the meeting). I did this with my 10,000 mile 2002 LeSabre Limited (I inherited it and already had a Deville) a couple of months ago and immediately sold it to a realtor for $15,000 -the retail value. A realtor in our company recently purchased a 2001 Seville SLS with 80k miles (but still had 20k to go on a Certified warranty) for $11,000 from a fellow realtor. This is a great market for full size cars like yours. If the car is a "certified" one with the remainder of the 6 year 100,000 mile warranty it is even a better deal.
#147 of 896 Re: What to do! [kcmover]
Jun 18, 2005 (4:40 pm)
You might want to buy a "Certified" Deville rather than a new one. The warranty is 6 years or 100,000 miles vice 48 months/50,000 miles for a new car. You should definately NOT trade in your present car. Sell it at least for the Edmunds private party price.
Jun 29, 2005 (4:41 am)
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#151 of 896 Re: What to do! [kcmover]
Jun 29, 2005 (6:09 am)
So what did you do? Did you look at a Lexus? Did the Lexus dealer offer you any more on a trade? Did you explore the realtor route?
#152 of 896 New Caddy: Not enticing for younger crowd
Jun 29, 2005 (8:49 am)
I am a fourth generation Cadillac owner. I presently own a 2002 Escalade and a 1996 Deville (close to 200K and still runs like a top). Both of these models will be the last Cadillacs I ever buy.
I am 28, and I think GM is making a huge miscalculation if they believe this new restyling will attract younger buyers to their line. Cadillacs are regarded for their sophistication, quality, and luxury. This new DTS looks like a throwback to the late 90's Oldsmobile lineup before they went ca-plump. The new DTS is ugly. It has no marked styling. Cadillac seems to be no longer taking their line seriously.
Young buyers expect the same thing from a Cadillac that older buyers do: A refined automobile that is elegant and distinctive. The name Cadillac speaks for itself. It makes no sense to drastically redesign a vehicle that was already on the fringe of what a true Cadillac is in the first place.
Incidentally, can someone please explain to me why the resale value of Cadillacs is so low?