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#855 of 2335 LaCrosse and Lexus 24 Hour Test Drives
Dec 09, 2004 (11:58 am)
Mrs. Rogers and I recently test drove a 2005 LaCrosse CXL, a 2005 Lexus ES330, and a 2005 Lexus RX330 for 24 hours each. We wanted a car to replace her 1998 Regal LS with 100K miles. GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz talks about Lexus all the time, so we decided to see what all the fuss was about.
I will start by saying that Hertz has rented me Toyota Camrys before, and I never had a problem. I had higher expectations for the ES330, and we came away disapointed. The ES330 seat cushion is too short to provide adequate thigh support. I supposed I could replace the seats with Recaros, but why should we have to? The five speed automatic is hesitant to downshift in city driving. I ended up moving the lever to "3" and "4" in city driving, and did not shift into "5" until we were on the freeway. There is not much headroom with the standard sunroof. According to Edmunds, the ES330 has much better resale than the Regal.
The RX330 had the same seating and transmission problems, and it also had wind noise. We believe it is coming from the luggage rack. I am not sure if a RX330 could be delivered without the luggage rack.
As Edmunds says in their recent roadtest, the LaCrosse four speed automatic is much smoother than the Lexus five speed. The seats offer much more thigh support. In fairess to Lexus, it is possible that the Lexus leather is of a higher quality that the Buick leather. Perhaps Bob Lutz can offer a "Coach" option next year. Both the ES330 and LaCrosse are very quiet cars.
After the three roadtests, we decided to purchase a new LaCrosse. I will get into the details in my next post.
#856 of 2335 LaCrosse CXL Purchase
Dec 09, 2004 (12:07 pm)
We decided on a 2005 LaCrosse CXL with the following five options:
PY1 16' Chrome-Tek wheels
JL9 Antilock brakes
AY1 Head curtain airbags
R13 Chrome package
KA1 Heated seats
The invoice total including the five options is $25,833. Deducting the $1,000 rebate brings the price down to $24,833. I was able to negotiate a price of $24,900 which is $67 over invoice. I also agreed to pay their $95 documentation fee.
Edmunds says my 1998 Regal LS with 100K miles is worth $2,800 trade in. I was able to negotiate a $3,250 trade in. I ordered the car, and it is supposed to arrive in six to eight weeks.
#857 of 2335 Re: priggly [dan165]
Dec 09, 2004 (12:31 pm)
I was not offended.
Where indeed has the sound system been critically reviewed?
#858 of 2335 Re: priggly [coopergerry]
Dec 09, 2004 (12:34 pm)
More than one salesperson at a number of dealerships. Salespersons don't commonly know much about the sound system, however. GM of Canada online information states the speaker system is Delphi but avoids telling you who "manufactures" it or any of the manufacturing details.
#859 of 2335 GM sound systems
Dec 09, 2004 (12:52 pm)
I always go with the standard radio and upgrade it later. You will probably come out ahead over anything GM offers. Just my opinion.
#860 of 2335 Re: LaCrosse CXL Purchase [mrrogers]
Dec 09, 2004 (1:00 pm)
Thank you Mr Rogers for taking the time to post all that great info.
#861 of 2335 Re: LaCrosse CXL Purchase [99gs]
Dec 09, 2004 (1:03 pm)
Does a speaker replacement make the biggest difference when upgrading?
#862 of 2335 Re: LaCrosse CXL Purchase [99gs]
Dec 10, 2004 (1:58 pm)
Yes, definitely. It's the single most effective measure in an aftermarket audio upgrade.
#864 of 2335 Re: priggly [priggly]
Dec 10, 2004 (6:41 pm)
Sounds to me that you in fact did not contact anyone in GMCda or GMC; that the dealers don't know; and that you really do not know either, unless you took apart a speaker unit. So I am left wondering how authoritative your comments on the speakers are. Or am I missing something here?