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Buick LaCrosse, Sedan
#404 of 2335 chevyguy, joey2brix
Feb 09, 2004 (4:44 pm)
Thanks for the kind words, chevyguy. I had some trouble with the threads this weekend too, hopefully I'll be off the hosts' S List if people continue to be civil around here!
Joey2brix- Actually, BMW sales FELL in January. Im wondering if it has to do with all the criticism over the redesigned 5-series, the panning of the overpriced X3, and the fear that Chris Bangle is going to slaughter the next 3 series.
PS- The www.buick.com website has been updated, and includes a link for a contest to win a new, fully loaded 2005 LaCrosse. You can only enter once via the internet. PLEASE NOTE- if you continually trash the La Crosse, please dont enter, so the chances of those who are interested in the vehicle are better! (not serious, folks, just relax......).
Feb 09, 2004 (5:48 pm)
The Cutlass, LSS, and Ninety-Eight were gone a fair bit before olds was given its death sentence.
#406 of 2335 LaCrosse At Chicago Auto Show
Feb 09, 2004 (6:00 pm)
Just got back from the Chicago Auto Show and I must admit the LaCrosse is a very attractive car from the outside. The new (revised) mini-vans look rather strange with their SUV front-ends. Just don't know if they will sell or not. Sat in the new Chevy Equinox and was it ever CHEAP. Also sat in the Malibu and Malibu Maxx and I must say I would never own one of those. Looked at the Pontiac G6 on display and it was pretty ugly looking. Lets hope the LaCrosse is a success or GM is in trouble. Lutz hasn't done very well with the revised GP and I don't think the GTO is going to do much either. My wife wants a Toyota and I can't say I blame her. This GM stuff just doesn't seem to cut it any more. Looks like my $2500 in GM Card savings is going to go to waste.
Feb 09, 2004 (6:01 pm)
Thanks, alpha for keeping reminding me. I'll enter. After all, I've only owned one non-GM product in my lifetime. If I win, maybe the neighbors will buy it at a "fair" price.
Well, I guess I grew up on the "other side of the tracks". Once Granddad went over the top with his salary, he finally traded in his loaded Olds 98, for a what? A Sedan deVille. Buick, oh please. Due to health reasons, Dad never made it beyond a Cutlass Supreme Brougham.
And on the other side of the family, it was (finally) trading in an ancient (one of those folks, like me, that can afford a lot more but want value) Olds Dynamic 88 for a, guess what, Sedan deVille.
Feb 09, 2004 (6:04 pm)
No, your GM Card Earnings aren't going to go to waste. Mine aren't either. Just buy elsewhere, keep racking up charges, and when you're ready for the next vehicle, let's hope GM has its act better together. You'll still have a ton of Earnings.
#409 of 2335 jan may be down. but '03 was good
Feb 09, 2004 (6:10 pm)
for BMW. 7 series got many complaints but now I see a ton on the road. Folks with money still want to flaunt it. 5 series sales will come around also. Sorry 6th. Buick's days are numbered. GM couldn't do it with a clean sheet of paper: Saturn. Rehashed minivans and GP's with a little more leather ain't gonna cut it. The 3.6L in the Ultra RDV and LC are last ditch efforts to keep the old models alive. Seven yrs for a LeSabre replacement? Old timers could get 2 or 3 hip replacements in that time. Pull the respirator on Buick.
Feb 09, 2004 (7:53 pm)
i disagree. i think buick will not only survive, but thrive. oldsmobile didn't have a best-selling car for years and years. but buick? they have only the best selling full size domestic sedan in the US--the le sabre, and excellent consumer ratings in terms of product quality, safety, reliability, and customer satisfaction, something which no oldsmobile product achieved.
why in the world would GM scuttle that? doesn't make sense to me. GM would be better off ditching Saturn. No legacy, no history, and that Ion steering wheel--Playland wants it back on bumper car no. 26.
Feb 09, 2004 (8:45 pm)
Buick has a bright future. LaCrosse in 05, LeSabre replacement (on same platform) for 06, Park Ave. replacement in 2007 on the new RWD Zeta platform, and Rendy replacement (on new Lambda platform) for 2008. The Riviera will probably return sometime within the decade as well, on the same new Zeta platform. And the LaCrosse will eventually be replaced with a shorter version of the same RWD platform.
Feb 09, 2004 (9:45 pm)
It's just sales took a dive in '03, nothing new in '04 so sales will get worse for regal/century if everyone knows they're dead models. Then in '05 you only get the LC to replace both cars and a rebadged minivan. All the new cars are great, but if you have to wait 4 of 5 years for all these fixes. As said before: money was pumped into Olds right before they shot it......
Feb 09, 2004 (11:00 pm)
i wholeheartedly agree that the regal and century are just dead weight at GM, and that the LeSabre should be on a tighter renewal schedule, but i have a feeling things will get better at buick soon, now that lutz has removed the bean counters from total control and freed up the design department.
did you know that before lutz came on board, the design department at GM was a subdivision of the engineering department? that already is a statement in itself, saying that they are not equal partners in the making of a car. how humiliating for the creative people.
if you examine how an advertising agency works, for example, there is a creative dept (comes up with ideas) a media dept (buys media time and space) and an accounting dept (handles budget). each department has its own particular set of challenges, and its own special kind of expertise in problem-solving. you would never want to put one group of personnel under the umbrella of another because you would end up with a lousy product.
GM has mishandled its personnel and by extension its product for way too long. the management needed a wake-up call and some fresh blood and we're gonna start seeing the fruits of that change real soon.