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Buick LaCrosse, Sedan
Mar 25, 2005 (8:05 am)
I have no problem with the 3.8, it is a very good powerplant. It was in my GP.
I just do not think launching a new model with a 195hp V6 at $30k is going to cut it.
I can not think of any other car that the Lucerne will compete with that has so few hp. I know that this car is not about flat out acceleration, but people will notice that the Avalon... has much more power.
The 3.6 would make a much more attractive base engine. Mark my words - the press will slam the Lucerne for only having 195hp. Right or wrong consumers remember negative reviews.
#1233 of 2335 ride and handling of LaCrosse
Mar 25, 2005 (8:31 am)
Here is where there are many opinions on what a car should ride and handle like. When the Regal came out it was calibrated to ride like a Buick of old with some handling capability. It got awful reviews from the press and Consumer Reports on a floaty ride. The car was then tightened down a bit and was acceptable to the press. BUT got a great number of complaints from the older drivers (60+) that wanted the ride of the old rear wheel drive Buicks. Cannot satisfy everyone.
The CX and CXS were tuned to give a slightly better ride than the Camry and kept most of the Camry handling characteristics. Most consumers would not be able to tell the difference. Also has better ride than the Accord. (remember that Accord and Camry have a huge part of midsize market) The Accord handles slightly better than the base LaCrosse.
The CXS rides about like the ES330 (same suspension as Camry with different spring and bushing rates) but the CXS has better handling. The ES330 rolls more over undulating roads. CXS has better handling than the Camry, Accord and ES330. The ride is much smoother than A6, Passat.
It is very hard to get both a good ride and great handling. The Germans compromise a smooth ride for better handling. They also tend to put very expensive suspensions in their cars to try and get both. If you live down south you will find that the ride is acceptable in these vehicles because you do not get the sharp impacts of the north.
There are very few cars being made now that have a better impact harshness than the LaCrosse in the mid size market. I would say the ES330 is one. The ES330 is a luxury car with no pretenses of sporty handling. The Camry is another. Any one know of any others? I have not driven the Ford 500 nor it's twin.
Todays drivers are demanding better handling and also bigger wheels for appearance. Handling and bigger tires go together but you lose the soft ride.
#1234 of 2335 The 3.8 is one of the all-time....
Mar 25, 2005 (8:34 am)
great engines - right up there with the old MOPAR "slant six". Durable, trouble-free with plenty of torque, real-world adequate power AND phenomenal MPG, no small consideration these days. It needs what the 3.6 has - aluminum block, overhead cams, variable displacement - all to get another 50+ HP and make it competitive in the marketplace.
#1235 of 2335 Cadillac Reliability
Mar 25, 2005 (8:36 am)
The April 2005 Consumer Reports annual Auto issue lists the reliability of the Deville and SRX as below average. The CTS and Escalade are average. The STS and XLR are too new for a rating. Last year's issue had the Regal with a very reliable rating.
#1236 of 2335 62vette thanks for the comparisons...
Mar 25, 2005 (8:48 am)
All the more reason that the CXS in the mid $20K's would be a world beater, just as the recent Regal [before all the de-contenting after '02] was [though it never sold as well as it should have, IMO] in its time.
#1237 of 2335 what regal decontenting?
Mar 25, 2005 (3:48 pm)
What decontenting are you talking about?
#1238 of 2335 Re: what regal decontenting? [62vetteefp]
Mar 25, 2005 (11:28 pm)
I have two Regal GS - 2000 and 2004.
From 2001 performance shift mode was deleted. From 2003 heavy decontent: side mirrors became unheated. The left side mirror used to be auto-dimming, no more. Magnasteer gone, as well as a lot of small things: The seats are less soft than used to be (less foam under the leather). Passenger side door lock was deleted. Change holder in console disappeared. The shifter speed indicator used to be illuminated; no more.
#1239 of 2335 Re: what regal decontenting? [yurakm]
Mar 26, 2005 (8:43 am)
You got most of them. Most people would not know unless they had the older car as you did.