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#1009 of 2335 Fredvh: Consumer Reports
Jan 24, 2005 (8:13 am)
I look forward to what Consumer Reports has to say about the 2005 Buick LaCrosse. My wife has a new LaCrosse in the garage, so naturally we are hoping for a good review. However, having owned three Regals, I am used to Consumer Reports giving the Regal a bad review and not recommending the car. This in spite of the fact that they admit that it is the most reliable family sedan in the world.(April 2004 Annual Auto Issue)
I had an opportunity to hear an interview with the editor of Consumer Reports on National Public Radio. He admitted to owning a Nissan Maxima, so maybe he is biased against a car (Buick) that is more reliable than his Nissan?
#1010 of 2335 Re: Fredvh: Consumer Reports [mrrogers]
Jan 24, 2005 (8:55 am)
What you cite, to me, points to the fact that the publication is credible. In their tests, CR found the Regal not to perform well. However, this is not at all correlated to reliability, in which the publication readily recognized the Regal's excellence in this area.
If there was an agenda against the vehicle, I'd imagine they would not have reported outstanding reliability.
The fact that the editor owns a Maxima is an intersting one- I doubt he's biased since many V6 sedans are rated above it.
Jan 24, 2005 (9:00 am)
In another forum, Return of GM's Might, I believe, someone said CR had just replaced its second head of the auto review in 60 years. Shows why their bias stays around a long time.
I'm surprised any time I happen to pick up a copy and it says any sort of nice about a GM car. After all GM, Ford, and Chrysler were all a part of the military-industrial complex that kept American cars big and consuming gas during the 70s when CR liked anything green and not US.
CR liked anything with a rubber band, clutch, and manual transmission back then, which is what the imports supplied. They had stuck with them since on the basis that they have a reliability advantage. Reading the Accord discussions and some others, that advantage has disappeared as their cars became as complex as the US brands.
#1012 of 2335 Re: Fredvh: Consumer Reports [mrrogers]
Jan 24, 2005 (9:09 am)
Thanks for responding to my post. Since you have a LaCrosse how do you and your wife like it? How does it compare to the Regal? What model did you get?
#1013 of 2335 Is there any way
Jan 24, 2005 (9:40 am)
to get a LaCrosse without the fake wood trim. I think it is hideous. I sat in 2 different models at the auto show and couldn't get beyond how cheap I thought it looked, as well as disappointment with the interior overall.
#1014 of 2335 Re: Buick LaCrosse [fredvh]
Jan 24, 2005 (3:46 pm)
My wife and I bought 98 Malibu in September 1998, mostly because very good reviews in CR. It was very popular then, and went at almost full MSRP. Several months later the same magazine published bad reliability statistics, and market prices fell couple of thousand dollars.
We trade the car recently. Received $2000 for 6 year old car in good condition, with 70k miles, and we consider it to be a fair price.
After upgrading to good after-market tires, the car was pleasure to drive. It was a pity to off load it. However, after warranty expired, repairs cost almost as much as payments for a new car.
With the experience, I am vary of new models - at least for the a first and second year after redesign. CR does not cover the subject: they simply will have no statistics for couple of years.
#1015 of 2335 Fredvh: First Impressions
Jan 24, 2005 (4:37 pm)
My wife and I have had the LaCrosse CXL for ten days. We ordered the car with ABS, side airbags, heated seats, chrome wheels, and the chrome package. We really like the car. We had 1995, 1998, and 2001 Regals which we drove for an average of 80,000 miles each.
The LaCrosse is based on the 2004 Grand Prix platform, and it is a much tighter car. There is very little flex in the chassis when you go over a railroad track or round a curve. It is much quieter than a Regal. It reminds me of a 7/8 scale Park Avenue inside, and that is meant to be a compliment. The seats are very comfortable. Mrs. Rogers drove both a Lexus ES330 and RX330 for 24 hour test drives, and she says that the LaCrosse seat cushion is longer and offers better thigh support.
Fiehrer Motors in Fairfield, OH north of Cincinnati delivered the car, and they are a pleasure to deal with. If GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz ever wants to copy Lexus customer service, he should visit Fiehrer. It was raining when we picked up the car, so they had the car indoors so we could inspect it. They give you a CD to help you get acquainted with the car.
#1016 of 2335 Re: Fredvh: First Impressions [mrrogers]
Jan 24, 2005 (9:51 pm)
Thanks Mr. Rogers for your info. Please keep us advised as the miles and weeks go by. The LaCrosse is one vehicle that is on my possible buy list. I am awaiting the CR report.
#1017 of 2335 Fredvh: 24 Hour Test Drive
Jan 25, 2005 (3:44 am)
GM is not advertising it, but if you ask your dealer politely, they will arrange for you to test drive a new LaCrosse for 24 hours. I feel this is very helpful in making an important decision.