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#41 of 779 AtmosKlear destinks by swschrad Sep 18, 2003 (3:09 pm)
it is an odorless odor eliminator solution, which you can spray, douse, or fog down through the fabric of an odor source once any gross contamination is cleaned up. GM parts, ACE hardware stores, Safeway and Cub stores, and the web site at www.atmosklear.com are some of the places it has been availiable. being an independent company run by two guys in minnesota, YMMV any particular moment in time on availiability.   it works. it is not a miracle; two sprays a tenth of a mile from a feedlot will not kill the stink there. you first have to clean up the dead critters, etc. and then get atmosklear to the bottom of every fiber that has the protein compounds that stink to clear the odor. rough cost is ten bucks a pint. there is no formal MSDS as the active ingredient is generally recognized as safe per the makers, it can cause minor irritation to eyes and lungs if you are sensitive, like an asthmatic, as I am. for me, walking through a mist of it is a very minor irritant.
#42 of 779 A few words about the BBB by Mr_Shiftright HOST Sep 23, 2003 (11:50 pm)
The BBB is a totally business-supported enterprise. It gets no public money, and it has no legal powers whatsoever, no government connection and no enforcement arm.   Acting as an arbitrator, it can pass down a decision because both parties have agreed that the arbitration will be "binding".   So it is from the two warring parties that the BBB gets the power to render a decision.   For all the above reasons, the BBB isn't like court and it isn't like the Feds or the local DA.
#43 of 779 BBB, again by avolvofan Sep 24, 2003 (8:21 pm)
Shifty, if both parties have agreed to binding arbitration, then the arbitrators decision is final. (And a judgement will be awarded by a court that would have jurisdiction over the matter. It (awarding the judgement) is a relatively simple procedure.) In juice22's circumstance, it seemed that the arbitrator was finding in his favor across the board. In that situation, there was little to lose by proceeding with the last attempt to fix the problems - it only gets worse for GM if the problems are not fixed.   In general, arbitration (if truly impartial) can accelerate a resolution by avoiding the procedural delay that the defense (in this instance, the manufacturer - who has much more resources to throw at the problem) can raise to basically wear down the owner (who usually does not have the resources to fight a long drawn-out lawsuit.) Another alternative for arbitration is the American Arbitration Association (AAA).
#44 of 779 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Sep 29, 2003 (8:59 pm)
Yes but a judgment doesn't mean the sheriff or the BBB can do anything about the judgment. This is a common misconception, that somehow someone will physically intervene in your behalf. Uh-uh. Many people ignore a judgment just to further annoy you. They play the string out to the bitter end, hoping you will give up at some point. Sometimes you need to hire an attorney to enforce the judgment.
#45 of 779 BBB yet again by avolvofan Sep 30, 2003 (7:36 pm)
Shifty, not necessarily. GM seems to be going down the path of binding arbitration instead of litigation. For example, when I bought my Corvette, one of the documents that I was requested to sign was an agreement to submit all disputes to binding arbitration. Whether that is an enforceable agreement would be a separate matter if my Corvette was experiencing mechanical problems and I wanted to pursue Lemon Law relief.   In any event, depending on the law of the state where you are a resident of, awards in binding arbitrations are generally easily converted into Judgements that can be enforced with the Sheriff or other remedies that a Judge can order. In California, the process is a simple motion that is filed with the court. If you have all of the paperwork (copy of the Arbitration Award, and documentation that shows the arbitration was binding) in order, the petitioner will get the Judgement without even having to appear in court.   Net, net, if the arbitration was truly binding, the award can be enforced and very easily. If the arbitration was non-binding, the award becomes an item of credible evidence that can be introduced in support of the lawsuit.
#46 of 779 by Mr_Shiftright HOST Oct 02, 2003 (8:44 pm)
Yeah okay I think we are saying the same thing. To enforce a judgment you have to do more paperwork, that's all I was saying. Most folks aren't as savvy as you about the process, they think that they are going to be cut a check at the end of the arbitration or that this is "it". That they just sit and wait for a payoff or resolution to happen without their further participation. In reality, these things can drag on awfully long sometimes.
#47 of 779 2003 denali problems by theham Nov 17, 2003 (4:26 pm)
I bought a 2003 denali on friday of last week and have setup my first service warranty problems work on wednesday. Seems like you buy a GM and drive off the lot straight to the service shop. I traded in a nightmare 2002 trailblazer for the denali. I guess I should have learned my lesson about GMC. However I do like the concept and design of the denali but hope I am not in for another long battle with a crappy GM product again.   Here are the problems I currently have for the wednesday service visit.   -Driver and Passenger Heated seats don't work. I noticed they didnt work on the drive home. When you click the button the light flashes and you hear a click from under the seat. This shold be a no brainer fix for the service shop. -Tranmission clunk you can feel when stopping the car. This is easily reproducable. -When at idle and in drive the car shakes. Not a violent or uniform shaking but a slight shaking with random bumps. -Sometime when stopping instead of the transmission clunk. You get like multiple clunks in a row almost like a grind. -The windshiled wiper motors or something around the dash make a sounds like a low ptched bird chirping everytime they reach thier apex then come down. Very annoying.   I have seen the tranmission posts similar to mine before and hope someone has some insight on this or a resolution. I believe with the shaking and clunking that there may be a more severe transmission problem. Also it seems that when accelerating the car slams into second abruptly instead of a smooth transition.   After dealing with chevy service shops and knowing how difficult it is to deal with them. I am gearing up as much info and opinoins as possible for the oncoming GM war that I can taste with this car as well.   When will I learn to not buy a GM product.....The saga continues
#48 of 779 theham, ctd. by avolvofan Nov 17, 2003 (9:36 pm)
Did you do any kind of test drive (other than around the block) before buying the truck?
#49 of 779 avolvofan by theham Nov 18, 2003 (10:35 am)
Just around the block. I never tried the heated seats so didnt notice that until the next morning. And the tranmission problems only occur after the car is warm and driven for a bit. Yes I am an idiot I should have test driven it more. But also whan driving a new car its hard to realy pay attention through the excitement of getting a new car to focus on problems. Anyway it sucks that a consumer has to basically use a test drive on a new car off the assembly line to diagnose problems instead of enjoying a new car purchase.
#50 of 779 Yikes based on all these posts, should I buy a Denali by kbmorton Nov 18, 2003 (12:06 pm)
I work for Verizon Wireless and therefore can get a GM Supplier discount (Verizon supplies the On-Star network)which is 1-2% under Dealer cost. My wife really likes the Denali XL. I would prefer to purchase a 2004 Nissan Armada or Toyota Seguoia because I have not seen the number of posts concerning problems with either of the above SUV's. However my wife loves the Denali.   Based on any of your experience (can see a number of Denali's that went to arbitration)would you purchase a 2004? I would be very interested in hearing your responses.   Thanks,

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