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#91 of 4893 ruski... by intrepidspirit Nov 13, 2003 (1:22 pm)
"just saw the concept 300C Hemi at the Miami Auto Show. Not bad. Definitely doesn't even smell like 300M."   --is that good or bad??
#92 of 4893 by intrepidspirit Nov 13, 2003 (1:37 pm)
If Chrysler really wants to upgrade their top-ended car, why are they offering the 300C in cheaper forms - i.e. 2.7 and 3.5 litre engines? This only serves to downgrade their top-ended car. By "intrepidizing" the 300C, their biggest market will be in the rental fleets!   Surely they could develop a lower level sedan to put the smaller motors in.   As a 300M owner, I have always appreciated that Chrysler did not downgrade the car by offering cheaper versions, like they did with the Intrepid...
#93 of 4893 Comparison to Lincoln LS by bmorisette Nov 13, 2003 (2:20 pm)
I don't think it's reasonable to be comparing the 300C to the Buick. The most reasonable comparison for the 300C is the Lincoln LS. It's available in V6 and V8 engines, has RWD, and is from a domestic company's "upscale" lable, but has the guts of their foreign subsidiary (The Jag S-Type) which raises it's credibility somewhat. Granted this makes the 300C still overpriced if it's priced in the low $40's but I think that when Chrysler looks into their competition scope, the LS should be the first thing they compare it against. BTW, the LS makes a quick $3200 jump in list when you upgrade from the most expensive V6 to the cheapest V8 so hearing a $5K bump for the Hemi doesn't sound unreasonable.
#94 of 4893 bmorisette...There are similarities by intrepidspirit Nov 13, 2003 (2:49 pm)
between the 300C and the Lincoln LS. However, the 300C is heavier and bigger. The LS is touted as a luxury performance sedan; I think you can leave performance out of the 300C description. I doubt that it will have the handling capability of the LS (or the 300M, for that matter).   I believe the 300C will be billed as a luxury or entry level luxury sedan and will therefore appeal to a different market than the LS.   Chrysler recently had an entry level luxury sedan -- the LHS, which was longer and rounder than the 300M. It couldn't even compete with the 300M and eventuallly became a Concord model a couple of years ago...
#95 of 4893 bmorisette - bump in price by rusty104 Nov 13, 2003 (4:27 pm)
I have no doubt that the "C" will be more than $3,200 more than the next level car. What I meant was that the addition of a hemi alone would not justify thousands of dollars of additional cost any more than it does on the LS. When you add larger wheels, a 5-speed transmission, nicer interior, better suspension and so forth then you have a different situation. As I wrote, I suspect the "C" will be fully loaded and therefore obviously merit a price significantly higher than the next model down. By the way I still think overall the new DC series is closer competition to the Buick full sized sedan line than to the Lincoln LS one. I would view the 2.7l as more comparable to the Buick (Le Sabre in this case) than it is to the entry level LS, regardless of which wheels drive the car.
#96 of 4893 2.7L by b4z Nov 14, 2003 (3:56 am)
Can't believe they are actually going to put a 2.7L engine in this car. I guess that will be their mileage champ and probably have a 10 sec. 0-60 time. Or they will put a stiff rearend gear in it to get it going.
#97 of 4893 Chrysler 300C 2.7L by oedipus1608 Nov 14, 2003 (1:59 pm)
The 300C with the 2.7L engine is just for so that Chrysler can play the affordability card in their advertisements of the 300C. Most buyers will upgrade to the 3.5L or the Hemi. Considering that Chrysler said that the base 300C will compete with Camery and Accord, the 300C with the hemi should not cost more than low to mid thirties. The 5.7L hemi only cost $895 in the the Durango and Ram, so it might cost the same in the 300C. BTW, acceleration times for the 2.7L might not be that bad considering that its transmission is derived from the "old" Mercedes-Benz five speed; one of the best transmissions currently on the market. The price of the 300C might reach the low forties if Chrysler puts their new 6.1L Hemi that will first be used in the Ram and produces over 400hp and 400lbs of torque. However, this engine may be used to power a rumored LX car that is larger than the 300C which might get the Imperial name. A photographer for the automotive section of Popular Mechanics said that he say a disguised Lx that was considerably larger than the 300C at over 200 inches. The engine has not been revealed yet, but insiders have managed to get a picture of it.   6.1L Hemi Engine http://www.apexmodified.ca/pics/hemi61.jpg
#98 of 4893 300 Series pricing by svevar Nov 18, 2003 (8:23 am)
Chrysler has been touring the country, showing off its upcoming new models to dealers and the press. They announced that the base 300 with the 2.7L will start around $25,000 to compete with well-equipped Accords and Camrys. A 300C with the Hemi engine should go for under $35,000. The car will be launched in April `04. Here's the link:   http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosinsider/0311/18/a01-328608.htm
#99 of 4893 by jjgittes Nov 18, 2003 (8:35 am)
$25-35k not bad, and may be able to pull away some accord/camry/whatever potential buyers who want a more aggressive look, assuming the car is well executed and (frankly) doesn't come off like American junk.
#100 of 4893 Jan 26, '04 by soozpk Nov 19, 2003 (3:03 am)
I called my local dealer yesterday afternoon, which gave the date of Jan 26th, as to when they will be accepting orders for the 300C.   On another note, DC's decision to roll back the price of the 300C to something more realistic is great news, as 40+ grand would make me rethink the whole deal.....a nice car like this, priced in the low 30's, is quite more down to earth.   Good move, DCX......

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