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#52 of 4893 Whiners! by 300h Oct 22, 2003 (8:53 am)
I'm sick of reading the messages from the cry babies on how DC is changing their beloved 300m. You are the same people that whined while the 300m was in development, complained about how it looked and cursed the use of the "300" name. I'm just hoping the door seals work the trunk mat fits unlike your beloved 300m... Go DC!
#53 of 4893 300h.... by intrepidspirit Oct 22, 2003 (9:58 am)
"I'm sick of reading the messages from the cry babies on how DC is changing their beloved 300m."   Nobody here is "crying" about DC changing their "beloved" 300M.   There is no change. DC is abandoning it - period! It's a different car!.   I (and other 300M owners) have merely expressed our opinions on the new 300C. I thought that was the purpose of this forum. If DC hadn't called it a 300, I wouldn't have even bothered with comparisons with the 300M. Because they chose to call it a 300, it invites comparisons.   If you are sick of reading the opinions (and perhaps vehicle comparisons) of current 300M owners, maybe you should skip our comments. It's a free world!   BTW,   "You are the same people that whined while the 300m was in development, complained about how it looked and cursed the use of the "300" name."   What forum did you see this in?
#54 of 4893 by ottowrkr Oct 23, 2003 (7:50 am)
300michael said "Watch out for some of those M's on the road they will be packing as much hp as the Hemi only in a 3.5L package"    Come on Mike , the day you crank out 350 H.P in a 3.5 without NOS , Turbo's or Supercharger you let me know. That V6 will never match the 5.7. Just wait till the 6.1 L goes into the 300.
#55 of 4893 Otto by 300michael Oct 23, 2003 (1:20 pm)
Some of us (300M owners) are getting ready do start doing just that. We have been in talks with two speed shops that said it can be done (no NOS or Super/Turbo involved. Pistons, cams, and some porting and polishing alonge with new headers, and some other things. Level 10 has a kit to take care of the transmission, that will rid us of that 33% loss down to an acceptible 18-20 percent. The additions should work good with the PP gears and put them to even better use. The baseline testing should start very soon and have parts ready by Feb/Mar. A few years back I would agree, The M's 3.5 was the highest output engine. Now look It is near the bottom of the pack Nissan's 3.5L was less then 240hp now the same engine is putting out over 280hp stock. SoCal got there 3.5 over 300 horses easy the split shafts are what caused them to stop, because they couldn't handle the power.
#56 of 4893 by ottowrkr Oct 23, 2003 (3:10 pm)
Yeah I guess if you were to tear the motor apart and rebuild it with some custom parts you could make some pretty good power . well let me know how it works out for you guys. But I still think the C with its RWD V8 engine should do a number to the M . Dont get me wrong I really love the M but I really REALLY like the C .
#57 of 4893 ? by b4z Oct 23, 2003 (5:18 pm)
The money spent on hopping a FWD 300M might be better spent buying a Hemi powered 300C. Certainly more cost effective.
#58 of 4893 300C by dukeofdallas Oct 23, 2003 (7:07 pm)
300micheal - I doubt that the 300C w/ 3.5 will be slower than the a stock M. An improved drivetrain will likely make up for a little extra weight although I wish they would tweak the engine a little. "...a larger Cirrus," - If somebody orders their C w/ a 2.7L, cloth interior and only the bare essentials, then apparently they were looking for a larger Cirrus.   intrepidspirit - The C appeals to this 300M owner.   Had a chance to see it in person recently at the State Fair of Texas. It's definitely love-hate styling. Things that really stood out were the short overhang in the back and the grill. It will grow on folks similar to the CTS or FX or Maxima.   Size, power, & stand out in the crowd (in a good way) styling. Sign me up.
#59 of 4893 6.1? by rusty104 Oct 24, 2003 (4:37 am)
Otto, what info do you have on the 6.1. Will it be going into the Magnum as part of the SRT package? Or will it just be going into the "C"? Do you know what the hp and torque numbers will be and when they will be dropping that bad boy into the "C" and/or Magnum. Thanks for the info.
#60 of 4893 The DC lineup by beespecial Oct 24, 2003 (11:40 am)
First off I must say that I’m more than a little P.O.’d that DC saw fit to discontinue the 300M which in my opinion is the best looking car on the street. Being an M owner, my opinion of course, is biased. Now to weigh in on the 300C and Pacifica. My first impressions of both, only by pictures, were much less than enthusiastic. With the Pacifica I felt they were trying for a revival of the ‘Station Wagon’. But after seeing a one up close I am warming up to it. When Dodge redesigned its trucks with the bold front grille I had a similar reaction. I thought it was ugly as sin. But I soon began to like it more and more. And I don’t even LIKE trucks. Now after seeing a few more pictures of the 300C my initial reaction is starting to fade. I’m anxious to get close to one so I can really check it out. I think my opinion of the C will change favorably once I see one in person. I hope that DC has some sort of muscle-car planned for its lineup in the coming years. With the revival of the Hemi, I think something along the lines of a ’69 Roadrunner or a ’70 Hemi Cuda would get some of DCs market share back.
#61 of 4893 Anyone know why 300C Touring not be available in N.A.? by 10and2 Oct 24, 2003 (1:41 pm)
Does anyone have any idea why DC will only be selling the Chrysler 300C Touring, which appears to be kind of a little more upscale Dodge Magnum SRT-8, outside of North America? I mean, they're building the thing in N.A. And it isn't unusual for Chrysler to offer its own version of a Dodge product. Why not in this case? Personally I think the 300C Touring would compete much better against some of the import competition. I thought it was sharp.

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